• ClimateStalin [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I genuinely do not understand the bonus of “Name recognition” in American politics

    If I only recognize the name of one person in a race, 95% of the time it’s because of bad things! Yeah I know who Andrew Cuomo is, he’s the guy who got fired for sexual harassment and killed thousands of grandparents!

    If he’s the only name I recognize I’m choosing other people at random and ranking him last!

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      I genuinely do not understand the bonus of “Name recognition” in American politics

      Cuomo is ShitFlakes.

      The average American reads at below a sixth grade level and Americans aren’t exactly known for being readers. Americans tend to vote in a similar way to how they buy cereal. Imagine ShitFlakes has a heavy ad buy in Joe Blow’s region around NYC. At the supermarket Joe gets to the cereal aisle and his hand reaches for ShitFlakes. He only sort of realizes he’s about to put that overpriced garbage into his cart because of very large number of times he’s seen it on his screens.

      Joe is middle aged, lived in NYC his whole life, and he loves CNN. He’s literally heard or seen the name Cuomo more than 10,000 times because it’s not only the surname of the ShitFlakes governor but also Mario Cuomo and Chris Cuomo too.

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      Part of the problem is that people who don’t like him are ranking him at all, even last. You don’t have to rank a candidate for NY mayor if you don’t want them as mayor.

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      American elections are generally run on PR and marketing. That’s what they use the money for, to buy ads and shit, and they put a lot of emphasis on optics.

      The political climbers who do the PR work jump at the chance for a candidate that already has “name recognition” because they don’t need to spend PR and marketing budget on making peolle aware of the candidate’s existence or what they are about. With Cuomo they already have the basics: white guy Democrat that has already been governor. They can now spend their big budget on fixing his many PR problems, which is probably correctly perceived as less difficult than making voters aware of a new candidate.

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      From back when we were living in the tall grass our brains evolved to like seeing tbings we know. It used to be berries. Now it is politicians. It is the same thing. In nearly every observable case repeated exposure increases favoribility regardless of context.

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          I have perhaps fortunate news for you about phobias and exposure therapy.

          Repeated exposure to negative stimuli does it fact reduce the negative experiences. In your example people build up tolerance for spicy food by eating spicy food and then go hotter.

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    Every time I’ve felt even remotely hopeful for a us politician, they’ve turned out to be a liberal or a toothless social democrat

    But I have revolutionary optimism and hope I’ll see a socialist ny mayor

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    That tells me Socialists are on the menu. Some of these statistics are fascinating. How is Cuomo pulling so strongly in the African American demographic? How is Cuomo pulling ahead with women?

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      This poll was pre-AOC endorsement and debate so that could be some of it. Zohran is pulling these numbers with only 72% name recognition compared to Cuomo’s 97%, so that could also be a part of it

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      It’s eternal 2016.

      The black populations that vote are highly entrenched in the Democratic patronage machine. They are machine democrats. They will always vote establishment. Did you not learn this in 2016 and 2020 when Bernie got crushed in the south for this reason?

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          No they are not dumb. They are entrenched in a political machine protecting their own interests. Also, most black people - like most people in general- do not vote at all. Those that do vote tend to be entrenched.

          What’s your explanation for why black voting blocs overwhelmingly favor centrist establishment candidates? Biden crushed Bernie on Super Tuesday without even having to spend any time or money on the south, they just defaulted to the center. You really think the DNC rigged the vote?

          Seems like you are just pissed that black people don’t vote progressive and are shooting the messenger instead of investigating why. Yes, of course, they actually are progressive and the entire primary process is rigged to the point of lying and changing millions of votes and I’m just a racist for analyzing why we lost.

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              It was rigged in that all of the establishment forces conspired against Bernie and there was some shenanigans at the Iowa caucuses, it was not outright rigged in terms of faked votes on Super Tuesday all throughout the south

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                “Shenanigans” is putting it mildly. In 2016, Clinton won Iowa with 700 SDEs to Sanders’s 697. And then in 2020, Buttigieg won with 563 to Sanders’s 562. Democrats torched the Iowa caucuses forever to stop him. I’m not arguing for legitimacy of the above source, but you need only look to the extreme examples of blatant ratfuckery. From tossed ballots, polls closing early, and to the single polling location for college towns in Michigan. Clinton couldn’t win every county in MI in ‘08 with only her on the ballot, but Biden did in ‘20 even though Bernie won several major cities. I agree that the Dems overdid that one.

                The DNC argued in court that’s it’s their right to pick the nominee no matter what. It should be a lesson to leftists that all liberals, even the most ☝️🤓 for rules, fairness, and traditions, will tear everything down and stop at nothing to combat the remotest of existential threats.

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      There’s data showing black Democrats self-identifying as moderate much more than white or Hispanic democrats, so a break for Cuomo makes sense on an ideological level

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      He said he believes Israel has a right to exist and defend itself, but at least he won’t visit Israel seven times and suck the wailing wall off like the other candidates I guess

      He really shouldn’t have caved and just responded with “I don’t believe the mayor of a city should be taking geopolitical diplomatic actions outside of the country” or something and reframed the issue

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        As far as I can tell, he has not said “Israel has a right to defend itself”. Zohran said that Israel has the right to exist as a non-Jewish state. He told the Mayoral debate and some news networks that Israel can exist only if it is not a Jewish ethnostate. I don’t even think that his answer was good, but he may have been trying to say that he wants a 1-state solution with a secular state.

        Israel does not have a right to exist. The correct answer is “Israel does not have a right to exist”.

        https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1930483587825955064

        What I think is more important is that he says that he supports the BDS movement and he implied that his support of BDS will impact his decision making as Mayor. Support for BDS is much better than most US politicians. Over 30 states have laws against BDS. Support for BDS is huge.

        https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1931997092177965438#m

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          Right, the correct answer is Israel does not have a right to exist. I would have also accepted a cheeky deflection, such as reframing everything to point out how odd of a question that is for a city mayoral candidate. Just a little bit of reality check for those watching to remind them of the absurdity of it.

          What we get instead of half-measured ass covering and accepting the parameters.

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    this poll makes me wonder if there any sizeable districts/jurisdictions where leftists can win within this country.

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      NYC Seattle Chicago Portland LA

      Have all been shown to be fertile for left of liberal political victories. My understanding is that the Nevada DNC also has progressive leadership, so waiting to see if they can push for some wins on their end now that they have some power

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        Portland is iffy. Right now 4/12 city councillors are DSA members, but by no means revolutionary in their politics. They are slightly better than average libs. Portland’s DA was a progressive but got turfed out for a Republican “tough on crime” guy. Former progressive city council members have been literally framed by the police or just faced massive smear campaigns. The mayor is a trucking company CEO who’s trying to give extra money to the shitty police department that they didn’t even ask for while at the same time cutting the parks budget.

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        Seattle

        It’s been trending social fascist post-COVID, probably in part due to the CHOP/CHAZ kerfuffle. The head of the city council is a small business beer tyrant, the city attorney is a party-switching republican, and the mayor makes Gavin Newsom look like the patron saint of the unhoused. Socialist councilmember Kshama Sawant left to work on caste discrimination, so the council tends to bend to whatever the business lobbies are pushing.

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            My point was meant to be that Sawant did indeed win in the past, but I think if she were to run today it would be harder. Momentum seems to be on the side of the right at the moment.

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              Not a bad point but a counter point is that momentum always was and is against anyone left of liberal. It’s not like Sawant didn’t have an uphill battle against Amazon money

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        Honestly, if left of liberal politicians got into power in a state’s party democrat apparatus, they’d probably win just due to inertia (provided they aren’t sabotaged like the NV dems were, obviously). Chuds will call them communists, but they’ve been doing that for decades so I have to imagine it doesn’t work on the average person anymore.

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    I got 2 (two) pieces of anti-zohran, pro-cuomo, mail when I checked today. They’re playing Zohran up as a scary risk and Cuomo as the safe, experienced, candidate.

    According to the fine print, one of them was from “Fix the City, Inc”, where DoorDash is a top donor. Gross.

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    not to get racial with it but lmao at the left wing guy being carried by white people for once. amazing things going on in da big apple