• ClimateStalin [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Pathetic loser shit

    It’s genuinely impressive how both idiotic and cucked the leaders of every western country are.

    Do you think this will work??? Do you think this will save you??? Of course it wont you fucking moron!

    Here’s what capitulating to Donald Trump does for you: Gets tariffs implemented on your goods while also pissing off your domestic base.

    There’s no flying under the radar and hoping to squeak by without Trump and the US noticing. The proper move is to say “Whatever the US does to us we’re doing double to them” and plan on cutting off all trade with the US.

    We don’t even produce anything! Just buy stuff from China like you were already doing anyway! If you need gas get it from Russia! The only countries actually harmed by cutting off literally all trade with the US are Canada, Mexico, and China, all of which have been proving that the best course of action is to say “Eat shit Donald” and then enjoy the highest approval ratings of any politician in your country for a decade

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    This is ukrainism in action — making yourself dependent on the US because of having to “defend yourself” against Russia

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      I call it Ukranization of Europe (as opposed to the europeazation of ukraine) but I think you have a point, in other areas too the EU over these years has become more like ukraine because it has had to absorb all the anti-russia hysteria along with the ukraninan nationalist view of history

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      Europe will never learn. They fear war so much that they shoot themselves in the foot. If they become financially independent, they would have a strong military that would stop wars from happening.

      Switzerland is also learning that US cannot be trusted blindly because you are neutral. Things can and will fuck you when you maintain “dependence” on anyone else.

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        If they become financially independent, they would have a strong military that would stop wars from happening.

        If Europe had independent and strong militaries, they would (re)-invade West Asia and Africa

        A weakened and contained Europe is a necessity for future human progress, otherwise they would recreate the imperialistic nightmares of the late 19th century

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          also Switzerland wears its neutrality like some sort of force field that absolves it from being complicit in contributing to imperialism.

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            Euro elites don’t care what you want, they’ll overextend themselves the minute they get enough arms to invade another country

            Crusader logic defines elite thought in Europe

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              A pushover Europe makes US stronger, we need a weaker US right now. Europe problem will have to be solved later.

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        Switzerland is also learning that US cannot be trusted blindly because you are neutral.

        They are not neutral, they are very much central to us empire, just in the western humanitarian/lib internationalism sense. Oh and basically the money laundering machine of the west.

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        I’ve meant Ukrainism as in a belief that Ukrainians have a right to a state, specifically in the current borders, including Crimea and Donbass

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    If there aren’t any mass protests within the next 24 hours, then they’ll get away with it politically

    The Euros are completely subsumed by their role as the “Junior” partner of global neo-imperialism, if it’s not ripping off black people, killing brown people or condescending toward Asians, then Europe can’t comprehend it, they don’t have the civilizational bandwidth for anything other than expansionist neoliberalism

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      If there aren’t any mass protests within the next 24 hours, then they’ll get away with it politically

      Eurolibs only think in the short-term and will protest tooth and nail over concessions (only for said concessions to be recalled soon later) AND only if those concessions benefit them…

      As long as they remain clueless about this and as long as they continue to receive slop in the form of treats, they’re sitting this one out.

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      Every European leader was selected by the US/UK. If you dare to go against US interests, there is network of friendly journos which will bring you down. US embassy and UK soft network can make or break your career. By natural selection this lead to current selection of incompetent, dumb, brownosers.

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      Euros hate Asians (or as they say, asiatic hordes) more than they “hate” (really they only hate Trump, not neccessarily the American entity) Americans which is why NATO countries are destroying their social programs to meet that 5% racketeering fee.