You are not understanding what I am saying. I am saying that Putin needs to explain to his country why the war is stopped and what was the benefit of it. Zelensky needs to show the same thing.
I am not talking about what they do about territories.
I stand by what I said. You made the jump to Russians being Nazis and assuming that I am supporting everything Russia does.
What? You replied to a wrong comment or I am spaced out.
I am not saying it is worth it. I am saying they have to make it seem worth it.
This should be stated up front during log in, or somewhere prominent.
Now Russians are Nazis lol. USA has invaded more countries than any other modern country but Russia gets called a Nazi and not them.
How does Russia not need to save face? They have to prove to their public and allies thaf the war was worth it and they gained something. Same thing with Ukraine that defending and fighting for so long was not just to end up giving land. NATO needs to maintain the illusion of having the greatest military to ever exist.
I want people to know my opinion, that’s why I replied and commented. What sort of fancy sounding but stupid reply is this?
Why would they just leave? It doesn’t make sense if they are gaining ground.
I didn’t know this. That is shitty design. It is nowhere explicitly stated on any app or the website.
I am not saying they have won completely and without any losses. But they clearly have gained land and Ukraine has not. It hurts people’s feelings but Russia is winning and it is not changing. Ukraine needs to stop the war, even if they are not the ones who started it.
Now we are spying who has downvoted? Cool.
I downvoted because the situation isn’t that simple anymore. This was applicable when it was just a “special operation”. Everyone involved needs to save face when this shit ends, that includes Russia, Ukraine and NATO.
Sometimes amputation saves a life
Then why do they have Ukrainian land?
Possible. That would make me even stronger believer lol
https://lemmy.today/comment/18094200
I stand corrected
But this is not medieval time
A pushover Europe makes US stronger, we need a weaker US right now. Europe problem will have to be solved later.
Americans decided it should be
Politics is all about saving face. The war will be over but they still would want a political career after that.