• SailorFuzz@lemmy.world
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      Oh hello Jill Stein “voters”.

      Running the same gambit again, huh? How’d that work out for ya?

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        Just fine since the blame rests on the failed Democratic Party rolling out milquetoast candidates.

        How’s Joe and Kamala doing?

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          Fine (except for the cancer) after their elected service? Is this an own?

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            Yeah, they’re sitting on their homes waiting this out, occasionally saying something about how stuff is bad. Heroes.

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        You watched children be slaughtered with your taxes and your response was to defend Genocide Joe too the last minute, then cheer Killer Kamala’s “most lethal military” promise. Damn right the “Palestine crowd” will let you know again that you’re voting for fascist genocides and that we won’t.

        Put forward a viable candidate and we’ll vote for them, until then, first they came for the communists and all that…

        Not that elections are going to be held anyways.

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          So your response to “genocide Joe” was to vote in the worst president in American history who has killed millions during covid and his APPROVAL of the Palestinian genocide as well as personally raped multiple women and CHILDREN.

          You might be a moron. Get help. You are a certified bot and a useful idiot for the pedophile party and Russian propaganda.

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            Of course not, I didn’t vote for Trump… But his election is not on me, it’s on you for voting for a non viable candidate we told you we’re also not voting for.

            Your lesser of two evils is not ours.

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        Starting up again. Posts died down last year. Now the same rethoric and communication style appears to be rearing its head again.

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    Kelly was brave for standing up to Trump, but I don’t think he’s a good choice.

    People want concrete policy, economic fixes, and the end of culture war shit. Kelly is just “I’m against Trump” which didn’t work the last two times it was tried. You need a candidate to stand for something, and Kelly ain’t it.

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      I disagree. He’s a scientist, he stands against gun violence, and is the categorical opposite of pretty much everything this administration stands for (including what I perceive to be an unfortunate straight-lacedness and by-the-book attitude). Having someone with actual experience in science is, I believe, exactly what the country would need to start pulling itself back together. However, even more important is a willingness to execute the spirit of the law against those who have made a mockery of it. I would want to see a commitment to punishment, investigation, and open books. A full airing of laundry and a clean wash. My concern is that he might not have the guts to do it. He doesn’t strike me as a half-asser, but he might choose compromise, when all that compromise has gotten is full-throated Nazi appeasement and, now, a fascist xenocidal state.

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      Kelly is a hard worker who made it to the top of many fields, none of them in search of money or power. He seems to be brave and principled. Regaurdless of any of his positions, this puts him about 500 miles ahead of anyone in maga world.

      If this man wants to hold trump accountable in anyway, I will vote for him, i’ll canvas for him, and i’ll send him my hard earned money.

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      People want concrete policy, economic fixes, and the end of culture war shit.

      This is your conclusion after the fucking country elected that fucker? No, Americans don’t give a shit about any of that. People on Lemmy want that.

      Americans want shit flinging, grudge based, reality show style fights. I don’t know that Kelly is enough of an asshole to be honest.

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        Yes, it’s how Mamdani won in New York.

        Most people with limited political savvy heard Trump talk about the economy when Harris said she wanted to keep things as they are. And everything got fucked under Biden, but things were good under Trump, right? Let’s go back to that. Plus he was funny.

        There is a dedicated group of shitheads that support everything the Republicans shit out, but they’re by-and-large not the majority in most places.

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          Honestly, I hope you are right. At the moment though, I have very little faith in the American electorate.

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          I dont get it either. The reds will be out in force for whatever reason. They dont care aboutbpolicy. They just vote. The opposition seems to want to be presented with ideal choices and want to hold out until they get it, country be damned.

          Its why even pro fighters are wary of street brawlers - the rules dont matter. Play by them, or expect rabid dogs to abide by them, and you lose. Every time.

          Oh, but you get to go home and be smug about not stooping to their level.

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            The opposition seems to want to be presented with ideal choices

            That’s exactly what people want. They’re sick and tired of these half-ass politicians so they seek out candidates who will actually stand for something. The strategy of big tent politics failed Kamala’s campaign.

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              In any other election (barring 2024, which got us here), id be all in for this. But right now, theres a criminal in the white house wrecking the country, and deatroying your rights, and it seems to me that the voters cant be arsed to turn out because ‘huh, no ideal choices’.

              Their kobayashi maru solution would be to do nothing because the outcome would be the same - failure, only the consequences of this failure would be to learn klingon. Thats not strength.

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    Seems like a perfect candidate. Astronauts are intelligent, determined, hard working and don’t freak out in pressure situations.

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      Can’t get any more All American than a Senator former astronaut, veteran. Was he a star quarterback as well?

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    I’ll take anyone that’s been able to experience the Overview Effect.

    The overview effect is a cognitive shift reported by some astronauts while viewing the Earth from space. Researchers have characterized the effect as “a state of awe with self-transcendent qualities, precipitated by a particularly striking visual stimulus”. The most prominent common aspects of personally experiencing the Earth from space are appreciation and perception of beauty, unexpected and even overwhelming emotion, and an increased sense of connection to other people and the Earth as a whole. The effect can cause changes in the observer’s self concept and value system, and can be transformative.

    A 2018 questionnaire survey of 39 astronauts and cosmonauts found that humanistic changes predominated over spiritual changes. In particular, the survey found a moderate degree of change in the Perceptions of Earth subscale (Earth as “a beautiful, fragile object to be treasured”), which significantly correlated with subsequent involvement in environmental causes.

    Immediately after his October 2021 Blue Origin flight, William Shatner told founder Jeff Bezos, “What you have given me is the most profound experience. I hope I never recover from this. I hope that I can maintain what I feel now.” However, in October 2022 he recounted that it took hours for him to realize why he wept after stepping out of the spacecraft: “I realized I was in grief for the Earth.” He later said that “I saw more clearly than I have… (the) slow death of Earth and we on it.” His biography Boldly Go recounted that “it was among the strongest feelings of grief I have ever encountered. The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of Earth below filled me with overwhelming sadness. Every day, we are confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of Earth at our hands… It filled me with dread. My trip to space was supposed to be a celebration; instead, it felt like a funeral.”

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      Except the Amazon guy. His takeaway from his suborbital flight was that it would be cool to place factories in orbit.

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        I’ll re-clarify… Any non-CEO that’s been there.

        It seems that the mental bullshit that enables someone to operate as a large company CEO can even overpower something that brings normal people to tears.

        Knowing this, how are we not putting them into asylums for the safety of the rest of society?

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        Trump’s… This is it? Of all the billions and billions and trillions of star systems and I only get to fuck up this one tiny blue dot in one of them? Who made this universe? I want to demand that he or she, but mostly he give me more planets to fuck up. He doesn’t deserve all knowledge about all planets with living life in them!..

        40 days and 40 nights later…

        Anyway, so a big Jesus comes to me. Big fellow, crying, very burly. He comes to me and says. He says, Mr president, says. He. He says to me. To me. He says. Mr president. Crying the big burly fellow. And remember, its jesus. I found him. Well some would say he found me. Yeah I locked him up. Told him to not be a little bitch and give us, give me more planets. He says to me. I told him I’d release him if he give us more planets. Its up to him really, if he wants to free himself. He says Mr. President, I’m here to now the lawn. I says not now mother effer! I always say it like that, I coined, well I 100 dollar billed the phrase “mother effer”. Not now, because I was never given my pace price I want more planets. I’ll be their acting president. I’m what you call a good actor, a great actor actually. Don’t know if you watched but there’s a little thing called “home alone too” and star in that movie. I deliver the most wonderful dialogue. I says. So jesus, he’s at the detainment facility. He’s a bad hombres, won’t give us planets!

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      Don’t forget that baldheaded fuck cut off Shatner saying something profound so he could spew shit out of his own mouth

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      Imagine thanking Jeff Bezos for giving you the opportunity to appreciate the fragile beauty of Earth by launching you into space with high-carbon-cost fuels…

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        Rocket launch emissions are visual but in reality a small portion of overall carbon, about 0.1% of all emissions. Even accounting for the difference in altitude where they are exhausted, it’s a tiny fraction.

        The fucking cows in the beef industry produce a lot more carbon emissions than every rocket launch. Approximately 12% of all carbon emissions in the world every year. You just don’t see it coming out the exhaust so you don’t think about it. It’s the reason that reducing beef consumption alone is one of the fastest ways a regular person can effect an actual real world tangible change to carbon emissions.

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          No argument there, but the key take away was about thanking Bezos for the opportunity. Maybe Blue Origin alone is a small fraction of global emissions, but Bezos’ corporate empire is responsible for much more than that.

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            I wasn’t even referencing Blue Origin there, I was referencing ALL rocket launches. BO is a very tiny sliver, they hardly launch shit because all they do is a handful of tourism flights that don’t even go to orbit. Actually, BO is the worst of the bunch currently because their launches still don’t actually have a use other than tourism.

            At least SpaceX and ULA launches send satellites to orbit, resupply payloads, and crew to the ISS. Starship is working towards modern Moon and Mars missions, and while SLS is a boondogle created by legacy Space companies and Congress, at least it has a generally good goal. BO is still just making the engines ULA now uses, and futzing around with their first orbital rocket with mixed results.

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              That’s not really the point I was trying to make, but thanks for the somewhat adjacent info, I guess?

              Still doesn’t change the fact that Bezos’ companies are a major contributor to the destruction of the planet and its environment

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    I like him, he at least has the balls to call out these fascist cunts. Having said that, next presidential election is going to be a kangaroo election. Trump already said last time if he got in, you’ll never have to vote again; he’ll have it fixed so good.

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      Does he? He wouldn’t say whether he thought there might have been any illegal orders to the military. Like his statement was hypothetical rather than about a campaign of murders and an undeclared act of war. I don’t recall him saying anything forceful as Americans have been attacked by masked brown shirts either.

      He’s a centrist with a cool resume, not a fighter.

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        Sure, but his entire cabinet is Russian lackeys. This doesn’t end when he stops breathing.

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          It’s a cult of personality. Trump is the glue holding it all together. Once he’s gone I expect the whole house of cards with come tumbling down. At least that’s what I hope will happen. Who knows these days?

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      He would be 96 years old by then. Prime age for a president if the current trend continues.

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      I agree. I’ll tank some downvotes for you.

      If we don’t have an actual socialist running in 2028. All my efforts will be spent on sabotaging the Democratic party by any means necessary.

      We either have a complete takeover of that party by the left; or we burn it to the fucking ground.

      My bet is on the bonfire.

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        If we don’t have an actual socialist running in 2028.

        If we don’t have an actual, at a bare minimum, democratic Socialist, as the candidate in 2028, Democrats lose the election and its fascism forever in the US.

        Its not a matter of preference, its a matter of survival.