Exactly. Its utterly fucking ridiculous to suggest that there isn’t a Democratic base. Its just that the base has been at odds with party leadership for 10 years.

If there’s proof present it and arrest him.

Look I’m still on the side of believing her. I still think the allegations are have all the hall marks of being credible. But hallmarks aren’t direct evidence and nothing thusfar, I think, would stand in a criminal investigation.

But if there are texts, Graham will have the other side of the conversation of those texts. If the allegations are not true, Graham has some real footwork to do to identify and elevate that evidence asap. If it is true, I just can’t imagine a sane or rational person denying it as strongly as Graham did. But the denial tells me more is going on here and there is a requirement to do more than just accept conjecture (which the entirety of the DNC political apparatus has).

And with that, its not like they didn’t try in multiple ways. I’m more interested in the Platner denial at this point. It was incredibly forceful.

If they can produce concrete evidence that the claims made against them are false, it could flip this whole thing on its head and I could see them easily running as a write-in.

There still a few days left in this week.

What I see is that in Platners sign off, they left a poison pill in the process Democrats will have to reckon with. They clearly are making the point that this is completely unfounded, and coming from within the DNC/ Maine Democrats. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. You can believe what it will, but so will Maine Democrats and especially Maine Volunteers associated with the Platner campaign. And this alone also leaves Platner with some leverage.

Like it or not, if Platner doesn’t endorse or support the candidate who follows, they can’t win. Platners Volunteer and base of support is so large, that without basically all of them supporting the new candidate, that candidate can’t win.

Not interested in the NYT’s opinions on this.

Its a very strong denial. You put out a denial that strong and it turns out you did do the thing, your head comes off.

Its unclear to me where things go from here. Graham does have some leverage in that they haven’t filed the papers to drop out quite yet.

How so?

Yeah. Especially after Platners video, basically denying the allegation in its entirety (which if it is true, he’ll be cooked in front of a judge), and throwing insider Dem’s under the bus…

THEN to go with the most insider of all insider processes… with super delegates to boot…

I mean that is the news. Along with the announcement from Maine Democrats about the insider process. An article about either would seem more relevant to pin.

Totally get the first part, but with a fast moving story, the klippenstein article, while, good, and frankly, I think more how we should approach these issues… I guess it already feels out of date and less relevant with the news of the past several hours? Or maybe, I suppose for pinned items I’ve seen those as more typically “megathread” type content, or “just the facts ma’am” type reporting, but not necessarily editorials, like this one from Ken.

Either way, obv your call, it just seems a bit out of place and less relevant considering we just had a few major twists in the story this afternoon/ evening.

Whats the uh… whats the purpose in pinning this?

Pretty much need it at this point, with the utter shitshow starting in Maine.

Well you don’t have to have a PhD to be a scientist. But its quite hilarious you have that book.

lying to my friends, telling them I earn a massive salary at a high-status career.

Whoa whoa whoa. Your telling me that wood scientist isn’t a massive salary, high status career?

So youre telling me Brude Hoadly lied to me?

Well I think your sentiment is right. But I’m like… my head is spinning after the past three days.

Is it if you have specific knowledge of a crime occurring?

I don’t know about Maine, but obstruction is itself a crime. If they know, and present this kind of high level denial…

Yes. I think you had the right of it, and I had the wrong of it. At least in part, in that, regardless, I knew that Platner would be stepping down.

Something I noted is that Platner said he “would” be filing the paper work. But he has not filed it yet. He does that bit of leverage, but I don’t know where this goes. Its bonkers. Like, if you did what he’s accused of and is denying it, like, he’s fucked. Beyond fucked. Like decades in prison fucked. And he knows that. And thats not the video he posted.

Where do you think it goes from here? What should Platner do?

They need to listen to Pelosi from 2024. Hold a primary. A rapid primary, but a primary regardless.