I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
The dogs can bark, but they’ll still obey
They need the pay, rent their apartments from blackrock.
Feel like there’s probably historical precedent on the ineffectiveness of local enforcers who side with the citizenry and against the unpopular federal government 3000 miles away but what do I know
Sir! No Sir! paints a picture of forgotten history, an apparatus of state security whose greatest victory is making itself appear to most as eternal and powerful instead of transient and brittle.
i think if there hasn’t already been some glitches in the program, well hushed up and kept under wraps, that this administration more than any could draw them out. mostly from incompetence and certain, unshakeable belief in the myth-making of white nationalist patriots and professional warriors and their oaths to follow orders from increasingly craven figureheads, their incompetent lackeys and naked opportunists.
any other administration i would believe could navigate an unpopular, unsolicited national guard deployment of people to overpolice their own state issued by a federal government on the brink of shutting down. there would be some CR that at least covered the security apparatus, or the unshakable belief that one was coming in a day or within the week.
but i really think the trump team is that stupid, to bluff all the way while holding absolute garbage. of course, i can also see some democrats totally eating the turd, so whatever.
So are these guys cannon fodder being sent in to a situation where they will obviously be attacked so that the government has an excuse to escalate? Video of troops under attack by “radical left antifa” will be very valuable to them.
Andor Ghorman is springing to mind.
I think that has always been the plan, but no one has escalated against the deployments beyond assault with a submarine sandwich
What would the magazine be on a submachine sandwich?
The tomato cause its easily insertable and removable.
Seven-six-two millimeter. Full metal jacket.
Isn’t there another “no kings” coming up? Maybe they’ll trample and stomp a few liberals, but it’s just going to look like shit for them.
I think besides LA, most of the stateside troop deployments have been largely doing busy work like collecting trash. Maybe attacking tent camps. It’s mostly just theatrics because there’s no backlash.
Trump still hasn’t invoked the Insurrection Act, which means troops under federal command can’t act in a law enforcement capacity. For whatever reason this is a line he won’t yet cross despite all his bluster.
Probably because he doesn’t need to. Again, no backlash. Not by the Dems, not by the people. He’s probably surprised by that too. Even during the Biden years, news media was pushing the big crime spree narrative that was total bullshit. These out of touch porkies probably think most of the country is mad Max shit while they actively put us on that path.
Not what I expected. Isn’t the US military thoroughly CHUDified? I’d think they’d be drooling at the thought of getting to partake in open season on the woke Antifa soyboys.
They also know all of that shit isn’t real though, because they are actually getting info and training based on actual observation. They know Portland isn’t a “war zone.” They know they’re being used as political puppets. Some of them are probably fine with that but a lot of them signed up to do actual real things, or at least only be mobilized towards actual threats.
I remember talking to someone who worked in a US embassy who thought Havana Syndrome was real and got offended that I was joking about it
He’s literally just doing the you’re just following orders bit and giving the go ahead for it
These people are in the National Guard. They have day jobs, they’re residents of Oregon, many of them are probably from Portland.
This is the Guard, which is the civilians that occasionally are deployed. I would bet many of those guardsman are from Portland.
No one is a monolith even the military. It is a fools belief that soldiers for the empire are a monolith.
Not really, the military actually skews young so they tend to be more liberal than you’d think. POC are also over-represented in the military, and they skew left as well. Polling showed they voted for Bernie at a rate much higher than the average population, for example.
It’s just that in the military, even die-hard liberals are going to be “just following orders”. Now that it’s an all-volunteer force, we are long from the days of rebelliousness during the Vietnam War.
Not really, especially not the National Guard. These people have normal day jobs and signed up to get an extra paycheck for like one weekend a month and occasionally helping after a natural disaster.
Most of them signed up hoping to do no work, and if they did do work it would probably be unequivocally good, like rescuing people in a hurricane.
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I agree generally with Ken’s sentiment but I actually think that, while the media does fear-monger over the wrong things, they should not be looked at as overall fear-mongers. I think they could do a much better job of highlighting the points at which the Trump administration crosses boundaries, instead of reporting on incidents in a way that normalizes them. For example, the fact ICE killed a guy in Chicago for basically just reacting in a normal way should be highlighted way more. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/police-records-witness-accounts-complicate-dhs-narrative-fatal-chicago-area-ice-2025-09-24/
Full text of the letter
OREGON MILITARY DEPARTMENT
JOINT FORCE HEADQUARTERS, OREGON NATIONAL GUARD
OFFICE OF THE ADJUTANT GENERAL
230 GEER DRIVE NE.
SALEM OREGON 97308-5047[image: Seal of the State of Oregon]
29 September 2025
To the Soldiers and Airmen of the Oregon National Guard
SUBJECT: Title 10 Federal Mobilization — A Message to Our Team
By now, many of you have heard that approximately 200 of our service members will be mobilized under Title 10 federal authority for operations in the Portland area. I want to take a moment to speak with you directly about what this means and my expectations.
Yesterday, the Department of Defense requested our support through U.S. Northern Command. The mission is straightforward: protect federal facilities and the federal employees working in them.
I need everyone to understand the command relationship with this particular mission. Once our service members are mobilized under title 10, they are in federal service. They answer to U.S. Northern Command — not to me and not to Governor Kotek. Different authority, and a different chain of command.
I know some of you may have strong feelings about this mission. That’s okay. You are citizens first, but you’re also service members who took an oath to support and defend the Constitution and follow the orders of the President and the Governor. That oath doesn’t come with an asterisk that says, “only when I agree with the mission.” We don’t get to pick and choose. We execute lawful orders with professionalism and honor, period. That’s what sets us apart. That’s what makes us the National Guard.
I also want to be clear with those of you who aren’t mobilizing: this doesn’t diminish our ongoing state mission. We will continue to respond when the Governor calls — whether for wildfires, floods, ice storms, or whatever else Mother Nature or circumstances throw at Oregon. We’re still Oregon’s Guard, and we remain ready to serve our communities. This hasn’t and won’t change.
For those of you who are mobilizing, take care of your families. Have a solid family readiness plan. Use your unit Family Readiness Groups. We have Servicemember Family Support, Chaplain, Legal, and other resources available to help you. Remember, your families need to hear from you, even if you can’t discuss operational specifics. A phone call home matters more than you think.
Communicate with your civilian employers. Link them up with our State Employer Supporter of the Guard and Reserve (ESGR) Committee if they have questions about your military commitment. Contact your unit administrator about USERRA protections for your job, if needed.
For everyone, I’m asking you to be smart on social media. Don’t post about unit movements, mobilization details, or operational information. Please don’t get into political arguments online while wearing the uniform or identifying yourself as a member of the Oregon Guard. Understand you represent something bigger than yourself, and the public is watching. Show them the professionalism I know you’re capable of.
I’ll be honest with you — I know this isn’t easy. Some people in Oregon won’t understand or won’t support this mission. Some might even be hostile about it. But we’ve been through tough situations before. We are professionals who do our duties, regardless of how it’s received.
We are the Oregon National Guard — Citizen-Soldiers and Airmen who serve where we live. We’ve been doing this for over 150 years, through wars, disasters, and everything in between. We don’t serve because it’s easy or popular. We serve because it’s our duty and because we took an oath.
To those mobilizing: Execute your mission with honor. Stay focused, stay professional, and stay safe. To those remaining: stand ready. Support your teammates. And keep taking care of Oregon.
We’re in this together.
Always Ready, Always There![signature with initials A R G]
Alan R. Gronewold
Brigadier General
The Adjutant Generalyou’re also service members who took an oath to support and defend the Constitution
This whole thing borders on violating the 3rd. Ammendment, while violating the 10th. Ammendment and 5th. Ammendment. Anything not listed in the Constitution is automatically given to the states. In this case, there’s nothing that says the president can order national guard to deploy on US soil during peacetime.
Furthermore, it is the responsibility of the government to prove someone is guilty of a crime (in this case, illegally crossing the border). ICE is rounding people up and declaring them non-citizens without giving due process where they prove people broke the law.
In other words, you’re full of shit. The Constitution means fuck-all because if your oath was serious, you’d be open firing on ICE and freeing anyone in their custody.
and follow the orders of the President and the Governor. That oath doesn’t come with an asterisk that says, “only when I agree with the mission.” We don’t get to pick and choose.
We hanged people at Nuremberg for giving this same excuse. You always have a conscious and a choice. You’re just choosing to ignore it because you already support Trump’s decisions.
We execute lawful orders with professionalism and honor, period.
…except these aren’t really lawful orders. They’re de-facto lawful because you’re choosing to enforce them. If you chose not to enforce Trump’s order, they would be de-facto unlawful. Laws only exist so long as they can be enforced. By choosing to go along with this charade, you are legitimizing what Trump is doing.
Fuck this guy fucking coward. Reminder: all troops are bastards because they’re just cops in green uniforms instead of blue ones.
100%.
Like, he’s right, he and the rest of them did take an oath to obey the constitution. Which is why they should be disobeying this order, and also why the Governor of Oregon should be saying anyone who obeys unlawful orders will be prosecuted.
I bet the Governor has the power to shitcan the head of the state national guard.
You do not answer to the Governor.
Also, you swore and oath to follow the orders of the Governor…we’re still Oregon’s guard and will support our communities, who are mostly against what you’re doing to them.
Yeah no shit
Is this surprising to anyone really? Most people in the military, even active duty, are fairly “apolitical.” Yeah they lean slightly right all the way to far right wing, just like 99% of Americans. But they aren’t like thinking they’re all warriors for God or something.
It’s mostly underperforming young people who are in good physical health and either couldn’t find a job in the private sector or couldn’t be fucked to find one. Sign up for the military, try to position yourself in a cushy position, and do nothing while getting a paycheck.
The NG guys absolutely 100% are far less “gung ho” than the active who are already far from gung ho. NG being activated means they gotta do stuff. They didn’t sign up to do stuff! Not in the NG! They signed up to like go stack some sandbags after a bad flood. Other than that they go to trainings, get the pay, get the benefits, that’s all they want. Not to be activated and abused for the political ends of some dipshit narcissist. That means they gotta be in conflict with people. They gotta wear a uniform. They gotta travel to Portland. That’s all way too much work just so Fatass in Chief can jerk off to the handsome troops.
Maybe in the army, come see the air force base in Colorado Springs; they really believe they’re warriors for God.
Man fuck Colorado Springs. You’ve got the Air Force Academy, 2 separate “Space Force” bases, the other “Space Force” complex in Cheyenne mountain, and also an Army Air Base, and then to top it off you’ve got Focus on the Family and like 1000 other Evangelical organizations.
Using dating apps there was fucking impossible
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Is that the Air Force academy? Or the space nerds? I could believe junior officers in training huffing those delusions. Don’t think I’ve seen/heard of but a handful of the Hegseth phenotype. The drunken wife beating Crusader
The Springs are a scary ass cult town
