NEW YORK — Leaders of Young Republican groups throughout the country worried what would happen if their Telegram chat ever got leaked, but they kept typing anyway.
They referred to Black people as monkeys and “the watermelon people” and mused about putting their political opponents in gas chambers. They talked about raping their enemies and driving them to suicide and lauded Republicans who they believed support slavery.
I’d love to say this surprises me, but it does not in the slightest.
No. They did not worry. You think they weren’t ready for this?
Yes, pretty much the type you’d expect to be a young Republican.
Bet you they all have amazing parents too
Pretty much defines Republicanism today. Way too many people in denial about how extreme they’ve gotten.
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I don’t get it.
Oh, I’ve never seen it in emoji form so I totally didn’t make the connection, haha. Thanks for the reminder.
I used to be an internet edgelord, until I recognized that it doesn’t matter if you aren’t actually a bigot when you act like one online. The impact is the same, it makes the real ones feel more comfortable in their views.
I also came to this realization around age 16, and it sounds like these guys are in college…
Up to age 40, not just college-age
The thing about being edgy is that it shouldn’t necessarily imply a particular political bias but if it always goes One Direction that’s indicative
One of the “Alt Right Playbook” videos talks about how the right wing don’t argue against each other. I don’t like internet videos, but i make an exception for this series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4
Yep. I don’t know about similar communities on Lemmy because I avoid them like the plague, but I’ve been on reddit long enough to know that r/conservative is famous for preemptively not allowing anyone who doesn’t agree with them and immediately banning anyone if they go against the grain even a little bit, accusing them of being leftist infiltrators.
It’s the only way they can maintain their hateful bubble and their persecution fetish.
It makes for a very predictable pattern whenever something happens that MAGAts would be expected to dislike. They stay silent about it until someone higher up shows them an acceptable response or viewpoint and they all fall in line for fear of being ousted.
Lemmy leans left, which means we are all constantly arguing about it
Except they fight all the time.
It’s honestly a tactic we need to adopt. No more infighting, no more purity testing, no more abstaining
Nah fuck that shit.
Diversity is strength.
Diversity is a strength when everyone shows up, it doesn’t do you any good when you’re undermanned
Can you stop arguing with me and just agree with my point?
Diversity of views only gets you so far when everyone wants theirs on top
I’m not falling for that. The one view should be whatever proves objectively most appealing
Diversity doesn’t require anyone argue.
Similar with social media but I am making an exception for the Fediverse:-)
One thing that snapped me out of that phase was a psychology professor saying your actions define what you are.
I don’t think there are as many edgelords anymore anyways. Since the Trump MAGA era nobody pretends. It’s all out in the open now. You either are or you aren’t. Nobody hides behind the “it’s just a joke bro” stuff like in the older internet eras. The bigots aren’t hiding their power level anymore.
I definitely know people who still pretend it’s just a joke.
Same story for me as well and changed around the same age. It’s all fun and games until you realize most of these guys are not in on the joke.
Future leaders of the party, screeching xbox kids that fucked your mom and discord racists. Wonderful. Love that for the US.
There will probably be no consequences anyways.
Absolutely fucking wild.
PSA for new folks: please don’t feed the troll in this thread.
My money is on them being a fed, not a troll.
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It’s YOUR JOB to give them consequences.
But no, just go to your No Kings parade and pat yourself on the back for “doing your best.”
Hahaha, going to no kings IS the consequences a just a guy person can do
Everything else requires the correct circumstances and rare possibilities
Wha do you reckon Americans do? They’re fucked no matter what. You can condescend all you want but you have just as much power as they do to help them: None
Bullshit
Good luck! You’re really making a difference posting garbage online!
Nah- so much. My impact is about equal with that of the “No Kings” protest. So… you know. Cute, mostly well-intentioned, but ultimately useless.
Great ideas for solutions, you’re a genius! Way to go, champ.
Bending over before they even ask. How brave of you.
I think you need to focus on your own country’s issues.
In other words, go away.
This is like telling someone that is depressed that they need to smile more.
Makes you feel better anyone who has dealt with it just sees an asshole.
Great. I’ll make sure to coddle you. And meanwhile, you get steamrolled by Nazis.
This is fun. Of this was a hundred years ago, you definitely would be blaming the Jews for being sent to concentration camps.
Aren’t you Canadian?
Yeah. You might remember us from a few solid decades of telling you this was going to happen. Remember, when you got shitty and belligerent about it? “America’s hat?” Something like that.
It’s interesting how when US liberals get defensive about their inaction they start sounding like US conservatives.
Jesus dude. Just want to be angry at someone, huh?
Most American response.
“Anger? That’s just so unpleasant.”
What do you suggest I do? Say it directly, psycho
It’s more interesting when America’s hat won’t shut the fuck up about a situation they have no power in effecting. Go bitch about your countries own shortcomings.
Congrats, you’re a Bush-era republican.
And you’re a high horsing twat curiously ignoring your own country falling off a right-wing cliff right behind us.
Coward.
And you’re a current era Canadian with no power in US affairs. Don’t you have your own issues with corruption, genocide and rightwing bullshit? Fuck how pathetic to sideline whine about a game you aren’t playing in.
It’s possible to go to a protest, meet some people, and then go kick some Nazis together. Not everyone just holds a sign and stops there.
You could even add voting at the start of your list and it would still work out
Time to go beating children that I assume are Nazis I guess
This trash is 18-40 years old.
I’d love to say this surprises me, but it does not in the slightest.
100%. These assholes have been trained to gaslight and trot out nonsense about Robert Byrd being in the Klan like 100 years ago, or that Democrats were the real racists because of shit that happened before the 1960s, and completely ignoring (or lying about) things like the Southern Strategy and how the parties completely re-aligned since the Civil Rights era.
Thing is, I’m a white guy and I know how these motherfuckers talk when they think they are in a safe space. I grew up in an area that was overwhelmingly Republican, deeply racist and nearly 100% white.
They ain’t fooling me, I can tell you that much. This ain’t my first rodeo, I’ve heard all this shit before, and I’ve seen these mofos in action online since the BBS days, and shortly after that, the USENET days. I don’t care what kind of rhetoric they try to dress their “movement” up with and it doesn’t matter what protocol or platform they are on…their methods and tactics like employing the Gish Gallop should not fool anyone, either.
Thing is, I’m a white guy and I know how these motherfuckers talk when they think they are in a safe space.
Same! I have the added pleasure of being a big, bearded, “straight-passing” gay man. I get to have really fun moments were the Republicans around me say despicable things about gays, I tell them I’m actually gay, then they trip all over themselves to explain how they’re actually totally cool with the gays. I call them out for being racist when that happens too. Making them uncomfortable by calmly shining light on their own words is one of my favorite group activities.
I’m bi, but straight passing. I got that southern boy look and draw in my voice. I do hard labor and I’ll jam out to some red dirt country music…and boy when I speak my.mind to folks like that, they don’t know what to do. I understand how you feel. It’s funny, but also annoying. Just cause we share the same pigmentation doesn’t mean we share the same views.
Now that I’m an adult and in not such a red area, I do notice times when I’ll get what I think are probably a few trial balloons. When I don’t bite, they don’t go any further. For example, some comment about “men in women’s sports”. Or how they will say they “identify as an attack helicopter”. Or how they should “put on a wig and a dress” so they can go into the women’s bathroom. That last one always amazes me, and I think I’ve heard it way too many times for it to be purely anecdotal. I do think the trans stuff is the go-to for this kind of thing as attacking trans is still considered mostly okay, and it’s the gateway drug for the rest of it…
But back when I was a kid/teen/adolescent - in the 70s/80s/early 90s - wow, some of the stuff just said casually, nearly all the time - unbelievable, even back then.
and how the parties completely re-aligned since the Civil Rights era.
“Completely” is wrong. The economically progressive policy on one side and crony-capitalist on the other have not shifted places.
One can rather describe it in the “Nazi bar” terms, racists jumped from the Democrat “bar” to the Republican “bar” and changed it for their ideas, but only where the racist categories were not orthogonal.
The end of the Dixiecrats
I want to like this comment 10 times. I feel like I’m reading my clones thoughts.
Stole this description from the other post about this.
Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape.
Leaders of Young Republican groups throughout the country worried what would happen if their Telegram chat ever got leaked, but they kept typing anyway.
They referred to Black people as monkeys and “the watermelon people” and mused about putting their political opponents in gas chambers. They talked about raping their enemies and driving them to suicide and lauded Republicans who they believed support slavery.
William Hendrix, the Kansas Young Republicans’ vice chair, used the words “n–ga” and “n–guh,” variations of a racial slur, more than a dozen times in the chat. Bobby Walker, the vice chair of the New York State Young Republicans at the time, referred to rape as “epic.” Peter Giunta, who at the time was chair of the same organization, wrote in a message sent in June that “everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber.”
“If we ever had a leak of this chat we would be cooked fr fr,” he wrote.
Get cooked, fuckface. nihilist racist pieces of shit
Great job on Politico’s part, though.
What’s wrong with “nihilist”?..
Say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism Dude, but at least it’s an ethos.
I thought that at some point, but after encountering many real people in my life (doing all the human things, like breathing, eating, walking, sleeping, not an alien at all) I don’t anymore. It doesn’t fucking matter which consistent ethos a person has, all of them are fundamentally inconsistent due to human psychology or conflicts with the complexities of reality. And some of those suck donkey balls. Like National Socialism.
It’s a quote, from a very popular movie.
And nihilism is not healthy, it sounds like you should talk to a professional, but all they’re going to tell you is to get a hobby. Check out the library, lots of free/cheap starter hobbies.
Catching all sorts of strays lately.
Nihilist doesn’t mean “is cool with murdering people”
On it’s own, nothing really? As long as you don’t let that nihilism justify making life worse for others.
Combined with racism and the rest of the bigotry on display in these leaked exchanges, I think it’s useful to distinguish between someone whose ignorance has allowed them to be co-opted by bigotry against their own interests, and someone who justifies their bigotry because “nothing really matters”. I also think it’s useful to accuse them of not actually believing in anything when they’re running a political movement. Especially if the target audience for that movement does have a belief that some things intrinsically matter (be it democracy or, more likely here, the christian faith).
I’ll readily admit I was mainly trying to go for more than just “racist pieces of shit”, while having a clear impression from the tone and content of the leaked exchanges that there is an undercurrent of nihilism that is, if not fueling them, then at least lubricating them. If you have a better suggestion I would love to hear it.
And some idiot in one discussion still tries to convince me there is a difference between Republicans and Nazis…
And instead of disavowing these scumbags, JD Vance is saying it’s not a big deal.
Just more “locker room” talk from the fascists.
Does that mean we can make Charlie Kirk jokes?
There was never any reason to stop. The GOP shot him too.
Just like how it’s “locker room” talk about committing sexual assault.
Wow, read this whole article.
Thanks. I just did because of this. Holy cow.
i had to bow out when they called Epstein a wealthy financier
Young Repugnants.
It’s so ironic that conservatives idolize some of history’s biggest losers, because had those losers won, there’s a chance that people today wouldn’t even be allowed to form their own opinions.
That’s always the goal. If everyone is oppressed, but they get to participate in the oppression of others, they’ll jump at the chance.
It’s the fucked up social contract that fascist supporters have with their dear leader, support dear leader unconditionally and dear leader will declare a new group of people to be below the supporters in the social hierarchy. This giving the supporters license to oppress that group.
While the supporters don’t like getting shit on from above, they take great pleasure from shitting on those below.
Surely those who vote for the worst human beings imaginable will be spared from their wrath, right?
Right??
Fascism seems to require an “other” to work. Once you’ve destroyed all of the existing “others”, the only thing left to do is to look inward and see whether those people who seemed like they were on your side were actually “others” all along.
And this is why fascism is inherently untenable in the long term - it becomes an ouroboros. It’s always a short-lived political philosophy as the reins keep getting tightened on who qualifies for the in-group until, eventually, those who supported it become part of the out-groups.
wow… this is unbelievable to everyone who has never seen or heard a republican before.
