• Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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    There shouldn’t be a hearing but a trial.
    And the rapist should be tried, not testifying.
    But we all know that won’t happen.

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    I would like to hear a pubic account, on live TV, of Donnie’s blowie skills. then we can compare with Putin’s opinion.

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    Not to get too tinfoil hatty, but I imagine this is a bluff. He can say let’s do this in public because he’s not in power. Trump/republicans can’t really agree because then Bill will expose Trump. Bill gets to say I have nothing to hide and Trump can’t make Bill actually testify publicly because then they would both be exposed. At any time, Bill could go to any journalist and explain everything. Its honestly pretty smart if you know that the republicans will never sell trump out, which is a pretty safe bet.

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    First of all, it’s not only the American people. Several peoples deserve answers, I’d say many, considering the influence of countries like the USA and the UK, and known victims from over the world.

    Second, fuck Bubba. He does not need a political scenery to spell what he knows. Any respectable journalist would do, if he is so inclined to reveal the truth as he knows it.

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      He does not need a political scenery to spell what he knows. Any respectable journalist would do

      Wake up. They are all gone, or write for papers that use words too big for MAGA. Live public testimony can’t get filtered or modified by the propapandists.

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        That’s not the point at all. There are still respected journalists all over the world, but that’s secondary. What I said is, if the intention of the Clintons is to tell what they know, they can make it public literally any time. They have more than enough resources to do it. Whatever else you are interpreting from my previous post, wasn’t my purpose. I know very well most MAGA people are already out of reason’s reach concerning Trump.

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        Assuming MAGA watches it live, which they won’t. They’ll see it edited through fox or wherever and only hear the lies they already believe.

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      And you trust with the government to decide what happens behind this closed doors?

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        Of course not, but it’s not an isolated discourse. There are already tons of evidence and testimonies out there.

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            The USA lost to MAGA not because they are a majority, but because they united around Trump and did the responsible thing that you can expect from any citizen, they did vote. It was a complete political failure to not be able to unite the people against a ~80yo man known for being a rapist, a pedophile, a murderer, a con man, and a war hawk, to keep the list short.

            It won’t take four years to change USA’s political system, but the sooner they start the better. The world is certainly not holding its breadth.

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    lol if republicans are not acting on the opportunity for shitting on a previous dem president, then the actual shit on them is piles and piles higher

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    “yes, Trump did suck my dick. Only once, and it wasn’t great, but it did happen. I am ashamed but am willing to state the actual facts above all.”

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      What a dilemma. I want to upvote this comment but it’s at 69 upvotes right now and I don’t have the heart to ruin it.

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      I try to remember that “unless we know everything we dont know everything”

      I AM NOT DEFENDING BILL BUT as much as I believe Puff Daddy got away with a bunch of shit he definitely did that was illegal so much of what came out was just raging narcissism, hedonism, drug use and homosexuality. Most of their case was based on morality. They might have enough on Bill to “Ruin” him publicly but he draws a line at the pedophile tag. He might have loved doing coke and fucking ladyboys, he had a thing for African bisexual threeways who knows.

      Id plead guilty and go to jail over a lot of things before I’d wear a pedophile conviction in the court of public opinion.

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      I hope he brings the polaroids for that retro 90s porn sheen of “the incident.”

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        part of me wants to see it, but the other part of me doesnt want to see trump looking up at the camera all cock drunk with a huge presidential sized dick in his throat. fuckin blowin snot bubbles, all cross eyed and shit. orange makeup just congealed with cum and sweat, dripping down his chins. wearing a fucking jester hat or something.

        shutters yick.

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      …and it did.

      Bill Clinton is very, very good at not perjuring himself while not admitting to things he doesn’t want to. He “did not have sexual relations with that woman” because he made them define “sexual relations” and the definition they supplied did not include receiving oral. The definition of “is” mattered because whether it just meant currently or included at any time in the past (aka does “is” also include “was”) would change what answer he would have to give not to perjure himself.

      He’s all up for this testimony because this is exactly his wheelhouse, he thinks that they can embarrass him but that they can’t pin him for pedophilia, and he wants it to be very public because he’s got enough dirt on enough major conservatives that they won’t want it to be done publicly and that might get him out of even having to be embarrassed.

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    This guy got impeached for getting a BJ from his secretary. Can you believe how far we’ve come? Er…how far we’ve…fallen?

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      I mean, any president of high-ranking government official, just like any private-sector CEO or manager, using their position of power to coerce an intern to doing sexual acts, is pretty serious. Not to mention with politicians in particular that such behavior becomes a national security risk.

      I know that Republicans did a lot of horrible propaganda to turn it into a political issue, but what Bill Clinton did was absolutely wrong and legitimate grounds for being removed from office.

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        Definitely terrible, but on a scale of terrible things that Presidents are capable of? International invasions? War? Genocide? Deconstruction of global economies? You have to absolutely consider the enormous implications of replacing them.

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      He got impeached for lying about it. For lying. Impeached for lying. Ya know the thing Trump does literally every time he speaks?

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    Nothing to see here, just Bill making sure he’s either going to swim by himself or sink with the lot of 'em. My current prediction is: absolutely nothing will continue to happen.

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      “I did have sexual relations with Donald Trump in the oval office”

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        “i did not have sexual relations with donald, but he did give me head a couple times”

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      Sorry, I don’t understand who benefits from writing

      absolutely nothing will continue to happen

      Even if we think this may possibly be true or have been true, what virtue is there in us publicly signalling this kind of defeatism?

      The reality is that a lot has happened already. The EFTA is a solid piece of legislation. They were forced to push it through unanimously. We have over 3,000,000 documents to go through. We maybe have gone over not even 50% of them and consorting pedophiles and associates in high politics and diplomatic circles have resigned and or are being investigated. This was unthinkable just 2 months ago.

      He tried to capture Greenland, kidnapped a head of state, killed two citizens and this scandal is not going away.

      And they have admitted they are withholding (even in the closed room session with congress) 3,000,000 documents.

      This isn’t over and this will cause a very serious problem for a long time to come.

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        Nothing is going to happen. Like nothing has happened. It just facts bro

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      I mean, I can at least respect going into a negotiation holding a hand grenade tactic. I dont care how guilty I am if my co-conspirators try to make me a patsy I’d do the same thing.

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        It feels like an easy choice when everyone is calling you a pedo. I feel like most people could be a 100x worse than Bill and would still pull the same method if it might get the public to, bare minimum, think you aren’t a pedo.

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          But its also an easy choice especially if you arent.

          I’ve seen a fair bit of “Denying you’re a pedo… that sounds like what a pedo would do!”

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      What is there to lie about really. When a 79 year old man is asked a question and he responds, “I don’t know or don’t remember” there is little reason it shouldn’t be believed. There is a reason that air traffic controllers are forced into retirement at ~56, because studies found people’s mental acquity starts declining rapidly and they can’t be found reliable for important roles. This guy hasn’t held office in 25 years now, it would be hard to find anything you can guarantee he remembers accurately during his time in office without having to review documentation and fill in gaps and let his brain believe it remembers.

      It’s the whole thing about a person will run a red light, remember it being green, witness says it was green, video feed shows it was clearly red. And that testimony happens within minutes to months. Witness testimony isn’t worth much, let alone years later.

      Kind of like when Trump did a testimony back in 2019, like all of his responses were “I don’t recall”

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        The perjury charge was a stretch due to a perjury trap set up be the Republicans, which is why 10 Republicans in the Senate rejected it along with the Dems.

        However, the blowjob was the bigger issue. It’s unethical for a retail manager to get a blowjob from a floor associate because consent is more complicatedwhen there’s a power imbalance. I don’t understand how people can defend the President of the United States getting oral sex from an intern.

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        Not really, it’s just it turned out that while we’re focusing on him getting a blowjob from a consenting adult almost 30 years ago, we don’t focus on politician that are currently in power, and which were and are doing heinous shit to literal children. Priorities, you know.

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          Trump was impeached twice in his first term and if the Democrats gain a majority this year I’m sure he’ll be impeached again. Turns if you let one party get a stranglehold on all 3 branches the whole checks and balances thing kind of falls apart.

          Maybe if Clinton had been held accountable back then it would be easier to hold the president accountable now. Precedent and all that.

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            Yeah, because current administration fucking loves precedents and upholding a law. They literally gave the president absolute immunity, the fuck a precedent about a democrat from 30 years ago will do

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              Give a significant amount of people a reminder that the president is accountable to the law, thereby changing the culture that Trump was elected into.

              No president has ever been thrown out of office. No president has ever been jailed. If you think it wouldn’t be at least a little bit easier for a country that had done that to do it again, you’re dumb.

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                Are you fucking insane? You watch how the current clique shits on the constitutions, invents rules out of nothing, governs by bullying, speedruns autocracy with basically an approval from most of the country, and you think something will change if a president was thrown out of the office 30 years ago? You think all that inert mass, who does nothing when autocrat’s personal army executes people on the street, will react somehow different if only we’d jail an already unpopular president three decades ago? What a braindead take, it’s unreal.

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        another 1/3 will believe what they see online as long as it is repeated confidently and by enough people. A couple studies show this pretty well. The best way to change that 1/3 of peoples opinions who are not die hards is to show that you’re strong by being unmovable and by reading the same opinion over and over and over again. It rewires the brain.

        Which is good because the left has a very strong presence on social media and they actively contest this government by challenge it in the space that the government puts all it’s eggs in. Because if your enemy is putting all this effort into an area, it would be dumb to let them set up in that area. You’d have to be dumb as shit to just concede that area because it’s “too hard to deal with”

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    Our world is so weird. Why is this a set of tweets posted on a platform that is capable of generating CSAM?

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      sOcIaL gRaPh bro, everybody is there bro, it’s not a nazi platform because AOC and Bernie are there bro, mastodon is too complicated bro…

      I hate those excuses, it’s a nazi pedo platform, and anyone still there is part of the problem.

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    Dude, just use the platform you’re already reaching billions of people with.

    Just upload your own video.