What do you need to believe it. What would you expect to see if something is astroturfed. :::

Hard disagree in that not debating fascists is the bad idea. It’s why it’s such an astro turfed opinion. There is nothing that normalizes their views more then being able to spread their views uncontested. They want all these social platforms to be truth social. The left allows that when they ignore them

They’re the same people. It’s insane the left has this moral blindfold you all put on 20 years ago and never took off. The internet and these digital spaces are super important to shaping the real world. Stop pretending like they’re separate. They all feed into each other. This isn’t digg days. Everybody is online and super addicted

How so. Who was the last left leaning person that people rallied around?

Cause I can name multiple random people who flat out hard r someone and ended up a millionaire. How about the ICE agent that killed someone, millionaire. How about that fat kid that shot someone in the riots, millionaire.

Get fucking over yourself I don’t care if it don’t like what i said. Prove me wrong. End of the day, if you’re offended I don’t give a shit. I’m tired of you people acting morally and intelligently superior yet failing every fucking day

Do you think we’re not fucked?

This is the world now. It’s engagement.

The fact that it’s a normal opinion now doesn’t mean it’s a good opinion. It’s people like this. ml user that is partially responsible for how bad things are now.

It’s like when the department of forest management decided to stop doing controlled burns. It let a lot of dead fall collect and become fuel for the largest forest fires.

Users like this seem benign but they are not. Played right into the hands of right wing groups.

Cool. How much of the world is based of your opinion vs theirs.

Maybe you need to start caring

You don’t. But normal people do. Also why are you out of .ml there might be different opinions out here

I mean that’s just called gofund me but leftist just don’t fund anything. But if you call a black child a slur you can become a millionaire overnight

It’s so fucking mind blowing you all are trapped in this corner discussion some real issues others should know about but you all decided that wasn’t really important. Nobody knows this shit and if they did they’d be fucking pissed.

I just can’t believe Steve Miller told you all to fuck off and you did 😆

So when my company holds a “con” and invites all kinds of useless speakers to babble for a few minutes, is that all just a scam that they’re running to pay each other.

Twitter, Facebook and even reddit to a lesser extend during the 2024 exodus. APIs also had a coordinated lock down across all of them around 2024 as well.

I assert nothing online at this scale is grass roots. The internet is much more tightly controlled than I think we want to admit.

I think comments from leftist spaces like “Don’t roll with pigs” or that they’re leaving these spaces was a coordinated astro turf to clean them up to prepare for next election cycle.

So now both Democrats and Republicans are going to use facebook’s and Instagram and content creators to highlight and spread content about how bad Mamdani is doing. Which they have ease of access now since the political left removed themselves from all digital conservations and spaces that are not 100% left.

The limit will basically be if the right wing people turn on him because you guys aren’t doing shit fuck all. The best that the left can hope for is for people on the right having a “come to Jesus” moment and wanting to stop him cause they will. Lemmy users can post about it when it happens

Politics isn’t a game of physical strength

Maybe. Did they face consequences? Who polices the rules?

Yea which is not just targeted at right wing people. They likely have just as much aimed at the left. They may even want people on the left to remove themselves from the conversation so the machine doesn’t need to spend as much energy spreading it’s message. If the people who would call them out or challengé them are gone then it benefits them.

No, you’re not. In fact when you actually engage with them smartly, a lot really do lean socialist. They just don’t realize it because for some strange reason, progressives and leftist decided to abandon channels of communication and to hide away entirely telling each other to block anyone that looked at them funny.

The harsh reality that a lot of you have to face is that they may actually be smarter than the progressive left. They had a higher social awareness and they all knew the rules of the game and played well. We failed to fucking show up time and time again. When we did, it was the most useless fucking bullshit.

We are not what we once were. Go look around this place. Go read comment sections and try to find good insightful commentary that adds to the discussing. It’s all bullshit. It is all just repeating the same bullshit over and over again every post every day. Nothing is being created here.

You say that like you’re smarter then that. Or like your apart of a group that is better than that. But you’re not. Like it’s 15 years into this shit and you’re comment sounds like you’re just realizing this. Wait until you find out they’re also aware of this and not only do they use it to their benefit, you’ll find the group your in is totally ignorant to this. You’re being astonished at a bard playing music to rally his group while you’re in a group with bards that think music is stupid.

You’re on fucking lemmy after they convinced everybody here to leave social media. Wake up

Look around. We are herded into the most uncreative communities meant to stifle momentum. This community is for posting only news articles from certain sites and only about a certain topic. This other community is for memes, but only memes about Y. For YZ memes we have YZ meme community. Don’t even think about posting YZ memes in Y that’s a ban. This other community is for posting about beans.

But they’re the fucking stupid ones

Moderated right into our pens

But they beat you guys