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To communists, scarcity is a problem to be solved.
To capitalists, abundance is a problem to be solved.
seems like only a Marxist party is capable of systemic poverty eradication
Eradicating?? Wow, these authoritarian tankies sure sound aggressive. That poor extreme poverty.
Left Front slams poverty as eradicated
I wish we had Kerala Harris 😞
Kamala is part Brahmin, sorry to disappoint (makes a lot of sense tho if you think about it)
I distinctly remember a John Stossel (American libertarian talking head) special about capitalism and socialism, must’ve been close to 20 years ago. But there was this brief segment of it where he interviewed a socialist politician (they didn’t say Kerala specifically but they said “this state has been run by communists for years” so I assume it was Kerala). Stossel said something about you are poor (referring to generalized Indian poverty) because of your “stupid system”. Nice to see another libertarian dummy getting proven wrong yet again. Many such cases.
: “Hi, I’m a libertarian. I believe in this little something called muh freedumz! Except for abortions, weed, who you can marry, what race or religion you’re allowed to be, what hormones you can put in your body, what you’re allowed to name yourself, what kind of job you’re allowed to have because of your gender, whether or not you want to divorce your abusive husband, whether or not you want the government to spy on you, what you think of our oh so precious corporations, how you feel about a caste system with wasp men at the top wasp women at the bottom and everyone else genocided, a strong military, an omnipresent police force, whether or not you want to subsidize our precious corporations, whether or not you want to buy foreign or domestic products, what kind of language you’re allowed to speak….…you know, freedom!”
South Indian states are similar to Southeast Asia
North Indian states are similar to the worst parts of Africa, but without the privilege of just having more land
The latter is more capitalistic and conservative
Nonono, poverty is solely a function of the mean wealth of an area and has nothing to do with its distribution.
But at what cost?
da freedom and stock market 😭😭😭6 fuckkkkk
They are making use of the limited financial resources and autonomy they are provided by the Indian Central Government. I hope the LDF wins again next year. Unfortunately, there are certain well-off liberals who want to bring back the extremely corrupt and incompetent UDF Government.
ok yeah social democrats in the global south are generally better than those in the global north, but this party was literally just cheering on India’s attempt to start a war with Pakistan. i wouldn’t call national chauvinists of any kind “communists”, and the policies of this party are nothing more than developmentalism (which is better than the immediate alternative for sure but falls way short of what’s needed)
i’d rather be led by these guys than the BJP don’t get me wrong but can we stop watering down the ideological content of “communism” and start taking a more critical attitude. there’s an actual communist insurgency in India going on right now and they desperately need international attention.
communist insurgency in India going on right now
it’s mostly ‘crushed’, the state is now just killing tribal people. Maoist actions used to be daily news in the 2000s and early 2010s but now it’s much rarer.
i’d rather be led by these guys than the BJP don’t get me wrong but can we stop watering down the ideological content of “communism” and start taking a more critical attitude.
Vietnam has started sending its workers to Israel. China has continued its trade with Israel when it could’ve destroyed Israel’s economy. Communist countries with sovereign powers are engaged in cheap opportunism. Yet, I still support them in the way they have developed compared to other global south countries.
CPI and CPI(M)'s stance was tailism, they supported the war because there was public support for the same, I don’t agree with it but that doesn’t change my support in general.
you are right, it’s tailism, and it’s not good enough. revolutionary defeatism or bust. nothing else has ever achieved anything productive.
of course as I said, I still support them over most other parties in the country, which are objectively worse. However we cannot allow “communism” to be reduced in content to global south developmentalism that indulges itself in chauvinist warmongering.
Nothing will be good enough for you westerners when India’s concerned.
i wouldn’t call national chauvinists of any kind “communists”
Do you actually expect any communist movement in any place that’s not a historical imperial power to abandon any form of national identity and chauvinism so to speak? Like, you only think Maoist insurgents who are funded by China are real communists in one of the poorest nations on earth
Do you actually expect any communist movement in any place that’s not a historical imperial power to abandon any form of national identity and chauvinism so to speak?
yeah, when it comes to ethno-religious conflict that traces its origins back to arbitrary borders drawn by the British, I expect a communist organisation to not start cheerleading one or the other side. Srry if the standard established by Lenin and the Bolsheviks during WW1 is too high for you to meet. Beating on Hindutva war drums is very obviously not the same as progressive, liberationist nationalism.
you only think Maoist insurgents who are funded by China are real communists in one of the poorest nations on earth
no but they’re a good example of a substantially better line. also shut the fuck up lol they’re not “funded by China” you imbecile
I expect a communist organisation to not start cheerleading one or the other side.
There are around 200 million Muslims living in India, stop looking at this conflict purely from an ethnoreligious lens especially when condemning communist parties in the country. I’m not saying their stance on Pakistan is a good thing but pull back on the browbeating
also shut the fuck up lol they’re not “funded by China” you imbecile
jerkoff motion nobody said it was a bad thing, calm your ass
but this party was literally just cheering on India’s attempt to start a war with Pakistan
No it wasn’t
there’s an actual communist insurgency in India going on right now and they desperately need international attention.
My heart goes out to them but anyone who goes and tries to pay attenttion to them (ie read Nightmarch by Alpa Sha or follow news about them) will just realize how utterly fucked their situation is and that maoists are really just larping and offsetting their responsibility to reach political power where they live onto poor people when they hype them up too much. So not worth pretending that they’ve achieved more than the Keralans or that insurgency is actually their preferred strategy rather than what they’ve been forced to do.
not if North India has anything to say about it
for the mayos reading:
imagine if Europe was a country, and 95% of its politicians were Serbian. Now also imagine that in this alternate reality’s history, Serbia had invaded and Serbianized all of northeast europe. Now imagine that under this new European nation, they force everyone from Crete to Ireland to learn Serbian in schools (in addition to their native language and obviously necessary english)
that’s what India is
What are the Indian version of the “Serbs” called?
Many will disagree, but this is the simplest distillation for the westoid mind
What are the Indian version of the “Serbs” called?
Basically North India (minus Maharashtra). You could call them “Hindustanis” but that term would exclude Punjab which if anything was the source of everything North Indian thousands of years ago
I hank you for filling my westoid mind with some rough knowledge. Hope it will be refined to something more accurate as i learn more.
Great to see. Poverty is a solvable problem if you make it one, it isn’t a necessity except under systems thoroughly dominated by Capital that need a reserve army of labor.
What’s some good resources to learn more about Kerala, its history, and the their communist party?
Good overview by a CPI(M) party member who was directly involved in high levels of governance: https://1804books.com/products/kerala-another-possible-world
This is just social democracy with a coat of red. A large part of Kerala’s income is from remittances by Keralites working abroad in horrible conditions.
Remittances are a huge factor in most global south countries’ income, its not just kerala. Thats more on Kerala still being subjected to imperialism as part of the indian state and not any failure of the local leftists.
Yup. That Kerala can be this good while being imperialized through taxes makes it twice as impressive (same goes for South India as a whole, and a few other states too)
Every politician in Bihar (and also many more) must be destroyed
Okay but Bengalis and Punjabis and Burmese and Cambodians and Laotians and ESPECIALLY Biharis/Hindustanis are also allowed to work abroad??? And these places are worse off than Kerala
So obviously something’s being done right
yes, Kerala has a huge diaspora bringing in money from abroad (which is especially beneficial because of exchange rates). It’s not the Kerala Government policy to forcibly send workers to Gulf States. People go there because where you earn $250 in Kerala, you earn $700-$1000 abroad. Is that good? No, but the people aren’t going there out of sheer desperation.
Should the current Mexican Government (or even the previous ones) be blamed for undocumented immigrants working in terrible conditions in the US? No.
