ok yeah social democrats in the global south are generally better than those in the global north, but this party was literally just cheering on India’s attempt to start a war with Pakistan. i wouldn’t call national chauvinists of any kind “communists”, and the policies of this party are nothing more than developmentalism (which is better than the immediate alternative for sure but falls way short of what’s needed)
i’d rather be led by these guys than the BJP don’t get me wrong but can we stop watering down the ideological content of “communism” and start taking a more critical attitude. there’s an actual communist insurgency in India going on right now and they desperately need international attention.
it’s mostly ‘crushed’, the state is now just killing tribal people. Maoist actions used to be daily news in the 2000s and early 2010s but now it’s much rarer.
i’d rather be led by these guys than the BJP don’t get me wrong but can we stop watering down the ideological content of “communism” and start taking a more critical attitude.
Vietnam has started sending its workers to Israel. China has continued its trade with Israel when it could’ve destroyed Israel’s economy. Communist countries with sovereign powers are engaged in cheap opportunism. Yet, I still support them in the way they have developed compared to other global south countries.
CPI and CPI(M)'s stance was tailism, they supported the war because there was public support for the same, I don’t agree with it but that doesn’t change my support in general.
you are right, it’s tailism, and it’s not good enough. revolutionary defeatism or bust. nothing else has ever achieved anything productive.
of course as I said, I still support them over most other parties in the country, which are objectively worse. However we cannot allow “communism” to be reduced in content to global south developmentalism that indulges itself in chauvinist warmongering.
Nothing will be good enough for you westerners when India’s concerned.
i wouldn’t call national chauvinists of any kind “communists”
Do you actually expect any communist movement in any place that’s not a historical imperial power to abandon any form of national identity and chauvinism so to speak? Like, you only think Maoist insurgents who are funded by China are real communists in one of the poorest nations on earth
Do you actually expect any communist movement in any place that’s not a historical imperial power to abandon any form of national identity and chauvinism so to speak?
yeah, when it comes to ethno-religious conflict that traces its origins back to arbitrary borders drawn by the British, I expect a communist organisation to not start cheerleading one or the other side. Srry if the standard established by Lenin and the Bolsheviks during WW1 is too high for you to meet. Beating on Hindutva war drums is very obviously not the same as progressive, liberationist nationalism.
you only think Maoist insurgents who are funded by China are real communists in one of the poorest nations on earth
no but they’re a good example of a substantially better line. also shut the fuck up lol they’re not “funded by China” you imbecile
I expect a communist organisation to not start cheerleading one or the other side.
There are around 200 million Muslims living in India, stop looking at this conflict purely from an ethnoreligious lens especially when condemning communist parties in the country. I’m not saying their stance on Pakistan is a good thing but pull back on the browbeating
also shut the fuck up lol they’re not “funded by China” you imbecile
jerkoff motion nobody said it was a bad thing, calm your ass
but this party was literally just cheering on India’s attempt to start a war with Pakistan
No it wasn’t
there’s an actual communist insurgency in India going on right now and they desperately need international attention.
My heart goes out to them but anyone who goes and tries to pay attenttion to them (ie read Nightmarch by Alpa Sha or follow news about them) will just realize how utterly fucked their situation is and that maoists are really just larping and offsetting their responsibility to reach political power where they live onto poor people when they hype them up too much. So not worth pretending that they’ve achieved more than the Keralans or that insurgency is actually their preferred strategy rather than what they’ve been forced to do.
ok yeah social democrats in the global south are generally better than those in the global north, but this party was literally just cheering on India’s attempt to start a war with Pakistan. i wouldn’t call national chauvinists of any kind “communists”, and the policies of this party are nothing more than developmentalism (which is better than the immediate alternative for sure but falls way short of what’s needed)
i’d rather be led by these guys than the BJP don’t get me wrong but can we stop watering down the ideological content of “communism” and start taking a more critical attitude. there’s an actual communist insurgency in India going on right now and they desperately need international attention.
it’s mostly ‘crushed’, the state is now just killing tribal people. Maoist actions used to be daily news in the 2000s and early 2010s but now it’s much rarer.
Vietnam has started sending its workers to Israel. China has continued its trade with Israel when it could’ve destroyed Israel’s economy. Communist countries with sovereign powers are engaged in cheap opportunism. Yet, I still support them in the way they have developed compared to other global south countries.
CPI and CPI(M)'s stance was tailism, they supported the war because there was public support for the same, I don’t agree with it but that doesn’t change my support in general.
you are right, it’s tailism, and it’s not good enough. revolutionary defeatism or bust. nothing else has ever achieved anything productive.
of course as I said, I still support them over most other parties in the country, which are objectively worse. However we cannot allow “communism” to be reduced in content to global south developmentalism that indulges itself in chauvinist warmongering.
Nothing will be good enough for you westerners when India’s concerned.
Do you actually expect any communist movement in any place that’s not a historical imperial power to abandon any form of national identity and chauvinism so to speak? Like, you only think Maoist insurgents who are funded by China are real communists in one of the poorest nations on earth
yeah, when it comes to ethno-religious conflict that traces its origins back to arbitrary borders drawn by the British, I expect a communist organisation to not start cheerleading one or the other side. Srry if the standard established by Lenin and the Bolsheviks during WW1 is too high for you to meet. Beating on Hindutva war drums is very obviously not the same as progressive, liberationist nationalism.
no but they’re a good example of a substantially better line. also shut the fuck up lol they’re not “funded by China” you imbecile
There are around 200 million Muslims living in India, stop looking at this conflict purely from an ethnoreligious lens especially when condemning communist parties in the country. I’m not saying their stance on Pakistan is a good thing but pull back on the browbeating
jerkoff motion nobody said it was a bad thing, calm your ass
No it wasn’t
My heart goes out to them but anyone who goes and tries to pay attenttion to them (ie read Nightmarch by Alpa Sha or follow news about them) will just realize how utterly fucked their situation is and that maoists are really just larping and offsetting their responsibility to reach political power where they live onto poor people when they hype them up too much. So not worth pretending that they’ve achieved more than the Keralans or that insurgency is actually their preferred strategy rather than what they’ve been forced to do.