Euronews fact checked the statement and found that ammunition production may have been approximately four times more than that of the NATO Alliance in 2024. On paper, NATO’s economy is 25 times bigger than Russia’s once again illustrating that GDP measure doesn’t tell you much of anything about the real economy.

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    Russian production was four times that of all of NATO, not just America. The financialized Western economies are incapable of matching Russian production.

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      It’s almost like when everyone shaves off a chunk of the money through every avenue, those investments don’t amount to anything.

      Same goes for Iran. Their military budget is comparable to the NYPD’s, but they have way more firepower than amerikkka would ever have with that budget

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        Ok, you can disagree but it’s the leader of NATO saying it, and the only reason he’d lie about a weapons gap is to get more money spent on weapons, so actually you may have a point there.

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        What’s hard to believe about production outpacing that of the deindustrialized western nations whose economies are fueled entirely by imperialism and speculation?

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          the deindustrialized western nations whose economies are fueled entirely by imperialism and speculation

          I wanna make a stencil out of this and tag fucking everything until people get the point. This right here is it. Every single article that talks about this war that doesn’t address this fact is either incompetent or incomplete

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            A thing that I like to point out to people is that profit is quite literally inefficiency. You are paying someone more than the carrying costs to produce something for you. In this way, capitalist economies reward companies that promote process inefficiencies. Now, in a normal business setting, you can only get away with this for as long as your product is of a higher quality than your competitions, where paying your inefficient price is normally worth the cost.

            However, if you have what is essentially monopoly capture of an industry, then there is no competition and you can literally dictate the inefficiencies. The incentives become even worse in a publicly traded space where your shareholders have legally mandated you to pursue those inefficiencies. And it becomes worse still when you have the ‘eternal money’ spigot on full blast.

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              The libs normalize this “infinite money glitch” by calling it “economies of scale” lol…

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          Also, Russia never demolished their old war-production facilities. They just privatised a bunch of them, which meant that at the start of the war, when Putin realized that the war would drag on, he could just take back the factories and begin hiring people to work in them, which solved another of Russia’s chronic issues since the 1990s, which is high unemployment.

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              Plausible. All i know is that at the start of the prolonged conflict, Russia’s justice department began a series of anti-corruption trials against the people who bought ammunition factories and more or less just declared the transfers of ownership to be invalid, and began making the factories produce stuff again.

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        I don’t believe that for a second.

        That’s because you’re swimming in a propaganda bubble and unwilling to even entertain the idea that the propaganda you’re swimming in might actually be wrong.

        What you believe has no bearing on reality. You can not manifest victories from wishful thinking or self delusion.