Ok but if his mayoral campaign tanks he should just say it

Maybe he’s waiting until he’s mayor before he starts posting slammer memes

He wants to hire social workers and expand the social safety net, not increase police funding. Please at least attempt to familiarize yourself with the material you are discussing before making sweeping statements about it

I mean what’s also important is that regardless of how some people pick apart his representation online, he’s still perceived by the public as an anti-zionist radical which is the actually important part because he is winning! That’s a huge W for anti-zionism, even IF he had to make some compromises along the way. It paves the way for Zohran 2 to be even more outspoken a few years from now

The Third-Worldists feeling justified as we Amerikkkans once again argue over electoralism.

It refers to the reply lines on the left hand size of the page. Look at one of the subthreads with a million replies and you’ll see what I mean.

In this context it means struggle your heart out in this subthread but let’s not let the news mega get swamped by American electoralism

If you scroll down you’ll see the colors buildup in the replies as people respond to each other. Basically that is an indication of a struggle session as the lines on the left hand side build up showing how deep the conversation has gotten. Right now my response should be on the green layer so we aren’t yet.

He said he would fight antisemtism by funding a general hate violence prevention program (not one specifically targeted at antisemtism). What exactly was he supposed to say, in your opinion? Antisemtism isn’t real, or that it shouldn’t be combatted?

You are obviously unfamiliar with Zohran’s campaign. Nowhere in any of these posts or anywhere in his history or anywhere in his campaign has he said to hire more cops to fix this. The campaign promise was to hire more social workers.

You are literally making something up to be mad about. He did not say he wants to hire cops to combat antisemitism. He said he wants to increase funding for hate crime prevention.

“A peaceful event to retrieve the hostages at any cost to Palestinian lives”

Just don’t become a “fundido” when the time comes.

Best wishes from the “third world”.

Think about the world where Gramsci wrote that.

Be optimistic, sure. But don’t be idealistic, is not the same.

It would be cool if he’s the real deal, a first step for something bigger.

But he’s also in the belly of the beast. Same for the CPUSA and the SPA in the 30’, in a world where the URSS was still an horizon for the proletariats of the world. Now, putting all your eggs in the basket of electoralism drove to the winning of Roosevelt and the subsequent repression of the leftist parties and the workers movement. Not the ally a lot of them thought.

AOC and Berni are closer examples, they were also idealized in the ol’ CTH subreddit (not by everyone, of course). And, even when you cited the time where Parenti warned us about Bernie, a lot of people jumped the defend an obvious imperialist.

Just don’t idealize democrat figures as saviours (just don’t idealize in general). Have optimism, of course. But also comprehend that it doesn’t mean you should “jump on the granade” for them, don’t follow them blindy.

He’s no Lenin in 1905, the proletariat is no the same as 1905 (or 1917). But we both know where bourgeoisie electoralism can drive us to. And we need to be prepared for that, no surprises.

Its not hard to say death to israel. Even a child can say it.

I wish people understood more what liberal zionism is and the danger it poses.

The recent conversion of many Western politicians and media commentators from open supporters of the Gaza genocide to weak critics (tough words, no action) of the Netanyahu regime is no accident.

Of course, these weasels are concerned to restore their plummeting credibility in face of the worldwide rejection of Zionist atrocities, but they also have their way paved by Liberal Zionists who want to redirect the moral force of Palestinian solidarity into a historical compromise which preserves many aspects of Jewish colonial privilege.

Liberal Zionists, including most North American Jews, have long hated Netanyahu and other openly fascist Zionists for destroying their dream of a nicer, kinder colonial regime. Most still speak of a ‘two-state solution’.

Almost anything might seem like a haven after two years of the genocidal slaughter in Gaza and the open Israeli commitment to systematic child killing and a ‘final solution’ for Gaza.

But important compromises appear immediately when there is any move towards recognition of a Palestinian state. UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese warned in 2022 that “Dismantling the Israeli apartheid… will not automatically address the question of Israeli domination over the Palestinians, restore permanent sovereignty over the lands Israel occupies … nor … fulfill Palestinian political aspirations”.

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Even if Netanyahu were overthrown tomorrow and apartheid in historic Palestine were dismantled, key challenges would remain over what to do about historic land theft, the right to return for millions of refugees, and questions of justice over the multiple mass murders. And in that scenario, the voice of Liberal Zionism, in support of Jewish colonial privilege and backed by its Anglo-American sponsors, would become very important.

As I argued in my 2023 book West Asia After Washington, a collapse in the current Israeli regime would likely lead to a second stage of struggle over those compromises, and not a clean break into a free and democratic Palestine. We have seen the results of these bad compromises in the dismantling of other racist states - Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, Namibia and South Africa - where massive land and economic inequality problems remain.

The problem with Liberal Zionism lies in its main aim: to rescue the Israeli dream by distancing itself from and denouncing the genocidal Netanyahu version. That rescue could involve anything from two states to a single democratic state where apartheid is dismantled but special Jewish privilege is maintained in parts of the post-1967 occupied territories.

It is clear that openly fascist forces dominate the Netanyahu-led Israeli colony today, but not Zionism worldwide. Liberal Zionists remain very influential in the USA, despite the recent setbacks for their natural home in the US Democrat Party.

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Liberal Jews, who see themselves are tolerant and anti-racist, are repulsed by the apartheid brand. Two former Israeli Prime Ministers, Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert, both from the Israeli Labor Party, have argued that if the two state project disappears, there will be no alternative to the South African road and dismantling apartheid.

The Israeli Labor Party was the traditional base for liberal Zionism within the colony, even though many of its leaders had participated in the worst of Zionist terrorism. Yigal Allon, for example, a former Haganah terrorist in the 1930s and army commander during the Nakba massacres, became Israeli Prime Minister briefly in 1969. His ‘Allon Plan’ argued for divide and rule in the region but also for returning some of the occupied territories (after the 1967 war) to Arab control.

By contrast, the ‘Yinon Plan’ of 1982, argued by Likud adviser Oded Yinon, was a more comprehensive strategy for occupying and dominating the entire region.

The late Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli Labor Prime Minister who signed the Oslo peace accords with the PLO, spoke of a freeze of ‘settlements’ in the West Bank but invested billions in infrastructure for those same settlements, leading to their expansion.

In other words, both factions presided over expanded colonisation, but the Liberals at times, could contemplate a weak, marginalised Palestinian state in exchange for greater recognition of the Israeli regime under a ‘two state solution’, legitimising all the land theft since the 1960s.

Yeah imagine if he actually supported the destruction of Israel, he might be called an antisemite 😱

No?