Instance is midwest.social. Not a solitary clue who the admin was who did it.
A friend was wondering why they hadn’t seen my posts and figured I’d been banned from lemmy.world or just left in general. I went to his instance and saw that in the modlog.
Not a damn clue as to why. There are no post removals, no comment removals, no temp bans and I never got any messages from any of the admins about anything that I did. Just one day, they randomly banned me for racism without rhyme nor reason. I have literally nothing that I can point towards and say “This is the reason why” because they never bothered to do anything other than ban me.
I am many things. I am an asshole, I’m a vindictive bitch, I’m a petty prick, I’m often antagonistic, I’m also a whiny bitch. But racist?
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Well okay then
It’s not really a huge loss. MWS is basically a watered down .ml.
Maybe it’s that the mod is racist and they are just letting you know? That would make way more sense than you being racist.
That’s the only guess I got.
I went to midwest.social and looked at my own profile. Gives me a general timeframe of when I was banned. One of the last comments I made that was federated to that instance was this comment.
Context is easy to make out, but the dude was saying that constant reporting on deaths in Palestine was unhelpful because it would desensitize everyone to the death and make them expect it.
The only thing I can think of is that one of the admins of midwest.social is aggressively zionist or just completely misunderstood that comment.
Ooooh. This was in that era when being pro-Israelian or pro-Palestinian meant everyone not of your view was racist. All the extremies were clambering to bag that rhetoric for themselves. Racism is obviously a fntastic card to have in the narcissists’ deck, but it needs to stick to something first so in those opening rounds everything from anyone on any side is “racism”.
And let’s be honest; the odds of a moderator being a narcissist is higher than the normals
This was in that era when being pro-Israelian or pro-Palestinian meant everyone not of your view was racist
It is not that much different now, protesting genocide is apparently “antisemitic” according to some. I have been banned by some tool not a long time ago for exposing a genocide apologist.
You can get technical and point out that Palestinians are obviously a Senetic culture too. Basically most of what we now know as the Middle East is/was.
This was in that era when being pro-Israelian or pro-Palestinian meant everyone not of your view was racist
When Israel got the benefit of the doubt, I guess some progress has been made.
Also, if this is true, it supports my broader thesis that modding is largely a censorship exercise.
Can’t you edit your removed comment to see what the contents were?
Sorry for being unclear. I never had an account on midwest.social. Midwest.social sitebanned my lemmy.world account so no one on midwest.social can see my posts or comments.
When you’re banned from an instance, they stop federating your content to their instance. So you can get a general timeframe of when the account was banned because the comments and posts will stop appearing. They all show up as “removed” but it still tells you when it was removed and what post it was on.
I then went to my lemmy.world account and searched up those old posts. I looked at the comments that I made around that time and the only one I could find that was even remotely touching on race was the one I linked above.
… Is this why I couldn’t see your posts? I noticed certain communities were very different when logged in or not on Voyager, I have been reporting it as a bug this entire time.
Yup. Exactly why. I was just outright banned from the instance entirely so none of my content was federating.
If you weren’t logged in, then the app was probably using lemmy.world as a default instance and so you were seeing all my stuff.
Might wanna go apologize to Alex lol
But you see, it was I who was unclear…
I think if you tap on your comment and attempt to edit it, some clients let you access what you wrote before it got removed.
Well now I’m just confused because that doesn’t make any sense. The comments were removed on Midwest.social. My account is not. How am I supposed to click edit on a comment that’s on another instance that I don’t have an account on?
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lol
Ever notice how seldom they quote the post and context, even when asked for contestation purposes? I once asked a mod somewhere why I was banned and they just replied “no” and blocked me lol. Summer people are just so patheticly petty.
people are just so patheticly petty
Modding attracts a type kinda like clergy attracts pedos
Hey
Not all mods!
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Have you ever opposed any of the world’s ongoing genocides or authoritarian regimes?
Usually that just gets me mass downvoted and called a tankie
Or a liberal.
Ive never personally been called a Liberal, I have been called a fake anarchist and western imperialist sympathizer tho :3
is your name irony or serious?
If you detected a hint of atomic number 26, it’s because the name is as serious as a rusty old frying pan.
That’s a major flaw in lemmy. No ban notifications. Or, I’ve never gotten one. Like, rock n roll, ban me, especially if it’s justified. But since lemmy doesn’t let me know, if a mod doesn’t send a “fuck off and die” note, I may not find out I’m banned for months (like your situation, it wasn’t until someone else brought it to my attention).
But I do have multiple accounts, and if you want to ban me instead of just this account, you gotta let me know so I can filter shit out so I don’t vote on an alt or make a comment while I’m piddling around or whatever.
Also, apologies for going off topic since the mod action taken against the OP is the point of posting here, PTB. With no specifics given, and the total lack of anything hinting at racism in your years on lemmy, I can’t see this being a justified ban. Like you said, you’re human enough to put on an asshole hat now and then (less than me most likely, but still), but racism just isn’t something you’ve indulged in even in jest that I’ve ever seen.
That’s a major flaw in lemmy. No ban notifications.
Agreed!
I’m not 100% what is going on with ban notifications, but you will get some. Mostly from communities but not all. I think it’s depending on which instance has implemented that AutoMod function. But none of them tell you that you’ve been banned from another instance. Hell, it doesn’t even show it in my modlog. I had to go to midwest.social and manually search their modlog for myself and THEN see that I was banned. I’m sure I’ve probably got that on a few other instances.
I abhor racism. I was raised in an exceptionally racist household. I cannot say that I never said the N-word because I did. A lot. But growing up in a hateful echo chamber in a small town on a small island when everyone is so white they sunburn at night? You never see anything to break that mold. First person I met who wasn’t white was a Native dude at school when I was like 10ish. He was great, invited me over to his place and I went. Met his family. Every single thing I had been told was a complete lie. Was at that point I started second guessing everything that I was ever taught by my shithole parents. I was furious. I’m still furious. Well over 2/3rd of my life later and I’m incredibly furious. I am not okay with being used, especially against people for no reason. Like hell am I going to try and continue that for other people.
Then there’s the fact that I’m gay and have a “vested interest” if you want to put it that way because racism isn’t that different from homophobia in how insanely fucking stupid the entire thing is.
But more than anything? It’s just a fucked up way to be. I’m a die hard Trekkie. If I watched that show and came away going “Racism is okay!” then I need to be shot.
I’ve removed two posts in the one comm im a mod of (that isn’t just a personal comm) and both times i responded in the post explaining why it’s deleted, before removing the post. That’s the only way I know of that will alert a person they’ve been moderated.
I’ve never gotten a notification for anything of mine that’s been removed or banned.
It is heavily dependant on the instance and whether they have that set up. Lemmy.world will send notices but not all instances do. I don’t think lemmy.world will send a notification saying you’ve been banned from the instance though, I could be wrong
Lemmy.world will send notices but not all instances do.
Must be recent, when I was banned they didn’t give me a notice. They eventually wrote an entire post about it, but never let me know directly.
Oh i’ve stopped looking for logic with these weasels.
I got banned with a “merry Christmas ya filthy racist” for pointing out the Master from Doctor Who was a genocidal maniac who tended to get hoist on his own petard. Because the current iteration was played by an actor of SEA descent. Apparently actor =/= character is faulty maths.
To be fair, you were banned from hexbear.
Go back a bit further, i also got banned from .ml for referring to xi as “winnie”
That’s actually your earliest banning. The lemmy.ml one they just put down Rule 1 or whatever. The admins of lemmy.ml are a piece of work. They also banned my startrek.website account a long ass time ago but were all but forced to reverse course. Was the early days of Lemmy and I was posting way more than I do now, which is saying something. Why’d they ban me? I posted a meme that was the dude from Jimmy Neutron saying “My first gay character!”, attributed to Disney. The teacher then was like “This is your 18th first gay character” or something. I posted it with the title “They’re always the first in China, at least before being removed.”
Instant ban.
poor little lemmings. They’ll never be part of the power structure no matter how much they gobble, best they can do is swing at people on a federate instance so they have to go to one of a hundred others.
Ironically, the term “dunk tank” has rascist origins.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunk_tank#Origin (note: slurs).
Stamets, you honky.
What? Can’t hear you over the banjo
Part of a temp ban I got (night have been my other account I don’t use anymore) was because I ignored that my other comments were removed and continued an argument.
How was I supposed to know my comments were removed? There was no warning or anything, no notification about removals, nothing. Only saw the comments I was responding to as they popped in.
Doesn’t REALLY matter, I deserved it, but it would be nice to actually be appropriately warned before catching a ban when a warning was implied.
My favorite is when they ban you without citing any of the rules you broke. Got shadow banned from news because I made a tongue in cheek reference to how billionaires see the whole of working class citizens. “no, just no” was all they put. No broken rule, and obviously, no grasp of sarcasm. Even had the /s and everything.
Sounds like you been served by Jordan Lund haha
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they get steady supply of the normies getting funneled into lemmy.world main subs.
the good thing is that their censorship results in free thinkers ending up here haha
the good thing is that their censorship results in free thinkers ending up here haha
great point! lol
I’ll post the big bad comment here to see if I was actually in the wrong, as I’m usually pretty mindful of what I post (I think?) lol
FOR MODS:
I am just posting the comment that was under a Luigi Mangione post. If I shouldn’t, just let me know and I’ll edit out. Thank you!BANNED COMMENT:
‘Look, I get it. I have this excel sheet filled with CEOs, what they make a year, what company they work for, who their family is, what their blood type is, and much more. According to my spreadsheet, there are still ways to cut costs, and the only thing that can make my company more money is by offering these poor CEOs up to the capitalist machine. It’s just the cost of business, you know? I feel sorry for them, but profits are so much more important to me than some silly little person and their problems. ~/s~’
Cheekey comment that effectively communicates how the parasite class behaves vis-a-vis the peasants.
I give you 95% that Jordan Lund censored you for this.
During peak Luigi event, after censoring the shit out of pro luigi sentiment in news, pols etc lemmy.world subs. This clown slides into some obscure sub THAT HE WAS NOT “MODDING” where pro Luigi shit posters were discussing the events freely to let us know that he is monitoring what we are doing and if we keep it up, he will get it removed or some such shit.
Talking about putting that OT as a regime whore lol
Either way, this aint reddit and bootlickers can’t suppress the organic sentiment!
Luigi did not do nothing. But if he did do it, he done nothing wrong!
That is quite unfortunate, as Jordan was just commenting with me about the Fable franchise in a different thread. The more you know ✨ indeed!
I thought it was one of my better comments too, especially in the height of what happened 5 months ago. That is literally how they look at us peasants, so I thought it would be pretty well received regardless of political views, as the sentiment at the time was that a CEO getting offed was something both parties in the US could agree was a pretty good thing, especially a healthcare one that was and is still well known to deny valid claims. shrugs
Also, Luigi was with me that day, and we had a very good time playing Whack-A-Mole at the local Dave and Busters in Washington state. >_>
You would think we are all team peasant here but main subs are ran by DNC komissars who are ultimately just regime whores/controlled opposition. Once people understand this, the modding we see on corpo and big lemmy.world subs makes a lot more sense.
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main subs are ran by DNC komissars who are ultimately just regime whores/controlled opposition.
Without a citation I won’t believe it, but it would explain why they think anyone who disagrees with them is a paid actor. The GOP uses the tactic and the DNC is copying their playbook in the wrong ways.
Did you prove me wrong? Russian bot!
You’re against genocide? Trump supporter!
You don’t want to win over Musk? Why do you have the Democrats so much?
You called out the dems but not anyone else in the last 3 days because you have a job? Paid troll farm member!
This has been my thesis for about a year and my bias has been getting more and more confirmed.
This is deff my opinion as of now, evidence at best is circumstantial. However, after how they treated luigi and genocide discussions, this is a bridge i will be dying on until proven wrong.
. Got shadow banned from news
Can Lemmy even shadow-ban tho? I wasn’t aware that was a thing.
It can’t, no.
You don’t get notified when you’re banned, but there is a modlog.Ahh, ok, I get ya now. That’s true. But you can’t post to a place you’ve been banned, so it wouldn’t remain shadow-banned in the common use of the term. You’d find out then.
To your point, silent banning happens for sure. Has happened to me a lot.
It was a beautiful comment. Some people struggle with irony. Btw, I don’t think anyone is concious of their unconcious biases. If you give a shit, in the broad sense, you just have to keep trying.
You’re interviewing two candidates and you just seem to prefer Dan over Eric, who has dreads. You’re not really sure why you prefer Dan, but you’re sure it’s nothing to do with racism. You feel confident because you have a daughter-in-law you love like your own, who happens to be black. Are you racist if you hire Dan?
Oh absolutely. I have no idea if I’m racist unless I have it pointed out. Do I want to be? Fuck no. I just want to be told how so I can stop doing that. I don’t want my fun to come at the expense of others. Unless they’re billionaires or nazis, they can fuck off.
Now there’s a username I never expected to see in YPTB.
Me? Oh I’ve posted here before. Hell, I’ve been posted about before. Like I said, I am an asshole.
Granted my biggest ‘blowout’ over a power tripping piece of shit mod, I used TenForward itself to do it instead of here. Arguably I should have but it was just after the launch of TenForward and the admins of Startrek.website were actively harassing myself and the lemmy.world admins to attempt to get me banned. That and there were a lot of posts being made at the time questioning why I had suddenly left startrek.website, why myself/Picard/Umm/NegativeNull and others suddenly stopped posting to Risa entirely. It was just easier to make one giant post on that community… why did I start talking about this and get links?
I need sleep. I also need ADHD meds. And I’d like to eat.
Can someone shoot me?
Can someone shoot me?
Request denied. You produce the content.
Whenever I get the energy for it again, 100%. I’m waiting for the rain to stop so I can go dumpster diving and find something to eat.
Edit: I got guilted into posting more…
Edit2: Rains not stopping tonight and I’m too cold. Maybe tomorrow.
You can have only one of those things. Maybe 2.
Something to eat please. I’m so hungry. And the thing to eat is a LEAD BULLET.
I bet one of the admins just had it out for you and came up with a bullshit excuse. Midwest reminds me of the Tankie Triad sometimes, quite a few of their users are .ml and Hexbear alts and the nonsensical banning is perfectly on brand. Nowhere near on the same level, of course, but still clearly a problem.
Side note, I hardly ever see anyone posting from that instance anymore. Used to see their users all the time. I wonder why?
Midwest is still federated with Hexbear as well.
What I find bizarre is that I only found out by complete accident.
Someone else made a post and @'d me. I looked at it and it had a response with someone saying “That account has been banned” and he was from the midwest.social instance. This dude happens to be a buddy of mine and I chat with him on Steam and Bsky so I reached out and asked what he meant while I looked at midwest.social and saw the banning.
He thought that lemmy.world had banned me for whatever reason (Spam. Spam would be the reason) and that’s why he wasn’t seeing my posts or anything on Lemmy anymore. That I either got banned or left lemmy on my own (which I did do for a hot second). I responded to him and asked if he could see the response. He couldn’t. He then looked at my account and saw all the posts outside of midwest.social and saw all the posts I’ve been making and that’s when I made this post.
Whole situation is just so weird.
Thanks again @End0fLine@midwest.social
Well, that definitely explains the number of tankies from that instance. On a side note, I’m really glad you’re back on Lemmy, the place felt empty without your posts.
Thank you <3
Life has just been a lot lately. Hard to get the energy to to go sorting through memes for 20 minutes, post them all and then go digging through the trash to find something to eat. The depression just does a lot of “What’s the point” and the not eating for days doesn’t give me enough energy to think up a point.
Midwest is still federated with Hexbear as well.
Any idea when Midwest was setup? I feel like I only saw Hexbear for a short bit before the blocking function became available. Then I immediately would have blocked Hexbear.
It just seems very midwestern to take the “just ignore them” approach.
I like it because I prefer to have the blocking of instances be my choice.
ooo has the redbaiting found a new target?
I quite like that admin, he has a very ‘no bullshit’ attitude.
I get why you might be confused though, he tends to issue bans for comments or posts on other instances that he finds or are reported (instance admins get reports from users on their instance regardless of if it originates on a different one). I actually quite appreciated it myself, but I very much share his political perspective so its not for everyone.
Midwest.social is small anyway, so its not a big deal.
There is more going on with that instance than meets the eye.
Like I said, I quite like that admin.
I get why people (especially people who do not share his perspectives) might not appreciate the blunt moderation, but I happen to agree with both of those examples.
The first one was someone abusing the report function against people who were not breaking any server rules. Midwest.social does not have a rule against calls to violence, and I personally do not have a problem with calling for violence against billionares, just like I don’t have a problem with calls to violence against nazis or genociders. If it were my server, and I was getting dozens of reports from the same person complaining about people wishing harm to billionares, I would probably ban them, too.
I honestly don’t see a problem with the second post, unless you just think he’s being an ass.
Banning people for downvoting your posts is a little weird. People can run their instances however they like but it helps to have truth in advertising, e.g. Beehaw is quite up-front when they do it, as too is Admiral Patrick of dubvee.org, whereas even Hexbears (notorious leftists) have dunked on Seahorse for having such a fragile ego and acting cowardly (their words).
Obviously you are free to do as you please, I was just pointing out some references in case they help. Normally when people ask what leftist instances to join, I tell them that yours (lemmy.dbzer0.com) and slrpnk.net are awesome, and then stop there without mentioning midwest.social.
As in, the instance is small for a reason, due to people avoiding it. :-P
Banning people for downvoting your posts is a little weird.
Where do you see that he was banning people for downvoting? He locked the post, sure, but things were certainly devolving in that thread. Looks like he just said an unpopular thing and then taunted downvoters for disagreeing.
As in, the instance is small for a reason, due to people avoiding it.
Frankly, I think large instances are a huge problem. I think every instance should be as small as midwest.social.
Yea, go nuts with avoiding it if you’re not a fan. I think seahorse would actually appreciate it if people who know they aren’t going to like his community not bother him with new registrations.
Since you do not seem to be sea-lioning, I will add some more details, but all of this is available from what I sent already.
Where do you see that he was banning people for downvoting?
It is the very title of the post in the 2nd link. The top comment starts with “Confirmed its real…”.
Yes small instances are great. Some are as small as just one person, and do not even allow sign-ups for anyone else. This one, however, advertises that it is welcoming as it desires to become larger.
What you are missing is that additional people are being affected, beyond merely the instance admin and the people who wish to block that instance. There are communities that have been placed on that instance, by people who were unaware, and are now mods. Some of those communities have since been moved elsewhere, after this community we are in now discussed the issue, making it less impactful but still present for new people coming here from Reddit who were unaware.
The admin may come across as “no-nonsense”, but there is more to that story than simply that. Obviously you will do as you please regardless - I just wanted to offer that knowledge so that your choice could be as informed as possible.
It is the very title of the post in the 2nd link.
The post title says he locked the post, not that he banned anyone.
This one, however, advertises that it is welcoming as it desires to become larger.
It’s welcoming, but not to everyone. “No bigotry, hate speech, No zionists, No fascists”. Doesn’t say it’s limited only to activity on their server.
What you are missing is that additional people are being affected, beyond merely the instance admin and the people who wish to block that instance.
Every admin and every instance has their own rules and their own standard for who can participate in their communities. This admin has chosen the proactive route, but those who get locked out have plenty of other places to go, and they can even successfully appeal their ban. That’s the benefit of the fediverse, and I think it’s perfectly acceptable to preemptively ban people from your community if they display the kind of behavior you find unacceptable. It’s your party, and you can uninvite whoever you want.
I don’t have any problem with you sharing your take, but I haven’t seen anything here that I take issue with. You’re free to disagree but I like that server just fine.
Hey stamets, did you
Did I what?
You know, the thing!
… I do not know the thing
Bro but when the
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