• The_hypnic_jerk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    There is no organized left in the US to disrupt, so I’m curious who the target is going to end up being. I guess its anyone deemed “anti-fascist” for whatever reason. So what, is this intending to give cops free reign to attack whoever by claiming they were terrorists? Is that different than what is already the case?

    Is it a go ahead to start cracking heads if they see anarchists passing out flyers?

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      They’re definitely targetting the anti-ICE and anti-Israel protests. Many of the anti-ICE protests were organized by PSL.

      There’s a line that Trump keeps saying that the anti-ICE protestors all have matching printed signs and that this is evidence that they are being payed to protests. This is likely referring to PSL protestors having matching PSL signs. Lib protestors all have non-matching harry potter back-to-brunch written with marker protest signs.

      They might target the No Kings protestors as well. Trump says that Jasmine Crockett is a Radical Leftist. There is no limit on who gets targeted.

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        My local PSL chapter was using Google Forms to survey prospective members, which I thought was sketchy when I was trying to meet them (making identifying information accessible by the feds), and the implications surrounding this executive order is why

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      Liberal billionaires, liberal NGOs, liberal charities (remember Trump got his charity taken away by NY libs), and DNC funding. Those will be the targets. Maybe they can catch DSA through Mamdani. Maybe PSL.

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      so I’m curious who the target is going to end up being.

      Oh yeah, such a mystery, who could it be?

      Chuds only care about abortion amirite, they would never target someone only based on their skin color

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          The call for Lutnick to investigate and restrict the finances of these groups is pulling directly from some crank congresspeople who sent Lutnick a letter last week to investigate PSL, PYM, Codepink, the People’s Forum, Breakthrough News, etc using these same tactics. That’s the organized left being targeted here.

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              think about this: the Abundance libs are basically libertarians. they want to get rid of the “groups”. trump is going to go after these “groups”. the neolib/libertarians will be pleased and help

              this solves the dems problem too. the tech right is already pivoting to the dems. any future cultural civil war will be between christian nationalists (maga) and the tech right (abundance, thiel, etc).

              our two choices will be Yarvinists salivating at the thought of turning our bodies into diesel fuel and christian nationalists who want to turn the entire U.S. (except their tiny enclaves) into Gaza

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                my two cents is ultimately the christian nationalists are likely the ones going to win, if not pyrrhic. So much of the U.S is brain-washed Christian propaganda down to the very foundations of it’s creation.

                You can only appeal to and give zealots power for so long until they demand everything.

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                  i think the same. or the Yarvinists may hold onto some network states/cities on the coasts (cali, around D.C., etc) and just make a truce if it actually went to a hot war.

                  basically how effective AI in warfare becomes determines whether the tech right can hold their own. or if they can get their surveillance tech up enough to continuously weaken christian nationalists by neutralizing leadership and disrupting their ability to organize. but in the end it’s a numbers game and you are right.

                  unfortunately non-religious types may be driven into the arms of the tech right for protection because the christian nationalists are truly barbaric in what they want to do

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                    barbarism and insidiousness. There’s a certain projection in the christian nationalist mind of their ideal of “Jews” in of this secretive religious cabal that inflitrates ideology and subsumes people to their “apocalyptic” will, or in some cases, supremacy.

                    Ironically, my entire life, I have only seen christian nationalists inflitrate ideology, subsume people to a self-destructive or globally destructive world-view or a value of christian/white supremacy. Never known a Jew like that and I consider Zionists nearly separate.

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        Not in a way that matters, no. The shit they’re responding to was in no way part of an organized left resistance. There’s like protests sometimes, usually 90% libs

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          Nah, things like the Palestinian protests, the encampments in the universities, the push back against ICE in places like LA, those have all been spear headed by the organized left in this country. They’re small, but they exist, and they’ve been growing as the Dems let people down and the number of crises continue to exist. Which means they need to be stomped out so no one can join them as they ramp up the fascism and liberalism let’s people down.

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            The interesting thing to see is if it will actually work. In my experience, any chilling effect is nullified by the fact that we were correct and the libs that care are not trained to ever shut the hell up about anything. It will take a serious, dedicated, crackdown to actually stomp out these kinds of radicalized libs from joining these organizations, if anything this gives them more national prominence than they ever had before.

            That said, these people also are not trained cadres, and likely just add more chaos into the mix, plus fed infiltration. Curse of interesting times indeed.

            At least the Dems are proving their fecklessness at every turn here.

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          It would be very funny if they started rolling out the stormtroopers for the “No Kings” libfests.