• AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml
    2·
    4 hours ago

    Without the zionist cancer, the US would not be able to have dollar hegemony and the ability to print unlimited greenback. Thats the real issue here. The phony sand cartels that call themselves states in the gulf depend on the security provided by the US and the zionist outpost and the US system of economic hegemony depends on that. Its that simple.

    Lets cut through the stupid conspiracy nonsense and see what’s really happening.

  • modestmeme@lemmy.world
    668·
    2 days ago

    Half of conspiracy boy’s list is because of the US… And the JFK one just renders him without merit at all. So f’ing tired of the nonstop conspiracy sh’t people drivel. We are in a true golden age of just saying crap that sounds good to our anger.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
      182·
      2 days ago

      JFK assasination is plausibly because JFK demanded investigation of Israel their stolen nukes and the CIA was heavily compromised since then by Israeli spies.

      • modestmeme@lemmy.world
        95·
        22 hours ago

        Jesus fucking Christ you people think “plausible” = true? Prove it, any of it, a smidgen of evidence. Anything…

        • burgerchurgarr@lemmus.orgEnglish
          21·
          21 hours ago

          You’re not a genocidal maniac = true? prove it, any of it, a smidgen of evidence. Anything…

        • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
          22·
          21 hours ago

          I’m not saying Israel assasinating JFK is confirmed true. I’m saying that Israel definitely had a motive for it and that Israel definitely had spies within the CIA which stole nukes for them and israel definitely didn’t like Kennedy asking to investigate Israeli nukes and require the Israel lobby register as foreign agents. These things all happened facually.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNI7_u99rec

          To pretend like there’s no connection at all is to ignore all existing evidence. There’s no definite proof, but the motives are there. And it was after JFK assasination that the Israel lobby really took off within the US.

          • modestmeme@lemmy.world
            32·
            21 hours ago

            Well you should hook up with all the other JFK conspiracists and hash out the wildly different but stands-to-reason perfectly plausible scenarios….

            • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
              32·
              12 hours ago

              Yeah we can all get together in a room and wonder why the government is so secretive about the JFK assassination and refuses to release all the fiiles about it. It’s not like the US government has a track record for crazy conspiracy theories. Like a CIA smuggling nukes to Israel and the CIA apparatus trying to bury it.

  • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
    224·
    2 days ago

    I highly doubt it. Without Israel the US would just pick another favorite child in the Middle East and carry on like before.

    • Armio2@lemmy.mlOP
      181·
      2 days ago

      They would definately try, but its really hard to find another child like Israel.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        71·
        1 day ago

        Honestly I can’t really think of any another excuse they could use too send white colonialists to live in the Middle East.

        If they can’t put white colonialists there, the “favorite child” would have to be a nation from a local ethnicity (and, “worst”, Muslim) and the whole propagandistic idea that “they have Western Values” - a slogan which carries both a “they think like us” for Liberals and a “they look like us” for Conservatives so as to get the support of both political groups - wouldn’t work anywhere as well, plus there would be no group of people in the West unwaveringly supporting them entirely out of tribalism (as a large segment of the Jewish people in most Western countries support Israel no matter what).

        So I totally agree with you that it would extremelly hard, maybe even impossible, to have a favored child in the Middle East that could get the level of public opinion support in the West that Israel managed to get.

          • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            71·
            1 day ago

            I suggest you go check out how they treat Ethiopian Jews (who are Black) in Israel if you think that’s a nation where all Jews are treated the same independently of their skin color - a simple search will yield you plenty articles in major newspapers about discrimination against Ethiopians in Israel and a further dig will lead you the more extreme but less talked about stuff like how at one point their were sterilizing them without their knowledge.

            Israel is de facto a nation for White Jews and they sure as hell keep repeatedly blowing the white supremacists dog-whistle with their “Israel has western values” propaganda.

  • PowerCrazy@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1112·
    2 days ago

    Imagine no religion… Yes I know religion is secondary cause of the conflict, but fewer Theocracies is always a good thing. Plus drying up the modern pilgrimage to slavery pipeline Saudi Arabia has created would be nice too.