• AlexLost@lemmy.world
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    It is ethnic cleansing, which the west has always supported in miriad forms. Follow the money, both sides of the aisle are equally guilty on this front, and they both support the state of Israel and love to sell them armaments. As with so many things, companies, politicians and other entities love to talk a good talk, but rarely pony up when it comes time to collect. In other words, talk is cheap, and people like to run their mouths but rarely open their wallets

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      did you create an instance all for yourself? awww

      so you hate the jews for legally moving back to israel?

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        Who said anything about hate? It has nothing to do with Jewish people and a whole lot to do with the state of Israel. Like I don’t like the Trump administration and think it’s doing terrible things, but I dont hate Americans. Kinda hard for someone like you to understand, I know, but the world is a complex place. Go hide behind your antisemitism stance, the adults are talking. Are you aware that Palestinians belong to the same ethnic group as the Jewish people? They just believe the same magic guy in the sky gave them different rules to follow.

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    Whole bunch of neoliberals who think liberalism hasn’t habitually supported genocide and chattel slavery every chance it got for some reason.

    Probably because they don’t know what liberalism is.

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    What’s happening in Gaza isn’t the result of “liberalism”. Liberalism would endeavor to make money off of everyone…and unilaterally killing millions of potential customers isn’t that. If this really were liberalism…the West would be arming Hamas as well.

    This is what happens when liberalism is abandoned in favor of outright fascism. They are not the same thing.

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      Western liberalism, in so far as it has been co-opted by “outright fascism” or ethnonationalism represented by the Jewish Supremacist state of Israel, contradicts itself. There’s no evidence that it can correct itself either.

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        Where is the contradiction? It is well known, historically speaking, that Liberals always do what they always do when it comes to fascists…they try to make money off of them…right up until the fascists kill them all.

        They are not the same group. Believing this, is fascist propaganda. They would have leftists believe that Liberals are worse. Do not underestimate this. Liberals are a cancer. Fascists are a bullet to the head.

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      I’ve yet to meet someone subscribed to liberal ideology that isn’t also a fascist behind the curtains.

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        Then you don’t understand the difference between them, ideologically. Liberals are free-market capitalists. Fascists are not. They are ethno-centric monopolists, who kill their competitors.

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          I’ve yet to see actual free maket capitalism. I’ll let you know if it ever happens. I don’t think it is possible to truly exist.

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            In terms of Liberalism, all it means is a completely deregulated market. No taxes. No trade barriers. Just unrestricted capitalism. And yeah…it’s basically theoretical.

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                Technically, everything in US politics is all just variations of Liberalism. The economic differences are just slightly different shades of the same spectrum, but the underlying principles are all the same.

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    You’re blaming this on western liberalism? As far as I can tell its the people in the western countries who reject western liberalism who are doing this. Or is this another tankie sub?

    Edit: you guys need to look up the definition of western liberalism because you clearly don’t know what it means. And what are you suggesting as an alternative? The article you posted is an interview with a guy who specifically says we live in a neo fascist era now. In fact the first paragraph seems to say Gaza is proof western liberalism has collapsed.

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      As if all we needed to do to prevent this was elect Kamala Harris. You are the most malicious of liars, a snake in the grass.

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        I think we’re getting out definitions mixed up here. I wasn’t thinking of any specific politician. Western liberalism to me are principles like democracy and human rights, so anyone who is helping cause the genocide is rejecting those principles. I don’t think the definition of “western liberal democracy” is the same thing as the “liberal party”.