• Hayduke@lemmy.world
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    If democrats just inch a little more to the right, it’s sure to be fruitful this time around.

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    Large majorities favor raising the minimum wage, import limits to protect jobs, increasing spending on social security and Medicare, using federal power to bring down the cost of prescription drugs, expanding federal funding for public schools, making it easier to join a union, increasing infrastructure spending, implementing a millionaires’ tax, and even the notion of a job guarantee.

    This is how “opening up to the Republican centrist voters” looks like BTW, not parading Cheney around on a stage.

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      This is how “opening up to the Republican centrist voters” looks like

      No, it’s not.

      This us moving to the left.

      And the very very sad fact is the people who had been running the party for decades knew it was that easy if it worked for Barack Hussein Obama in 2008, it will still work today. But the wealthy donate money to both sides to ensure that’s not an option.

      That is no longer the case. The failures of the 2024 election made the voting members of the DNC finally pivot away from neoliberals and named a chair who legitimately runs fair primaries and will support anyone with a D by their name in the general.

      The big is already done and settled, the people have a party again.

      We just have to try and prevent people from falling from billionaire propaganda whose goal is to depress dem.primary turnout.

      No matter what happens, we need a shit ton of turnout in the next presidential primary. If a neoliberal somehow wins due to depressed turnout, and they win the general…

      Then they’ll put the neoliberals back in charge of the DNC and we lose the best chance we’ve had in over 50 years to actually fix our political system. If it doesn’t work this time, it’s likely our last chance for a very long time, at least peacefully

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        No, it’s not.

        This us moving to the left.

        thatsthepoint.jpg

        If Republican right wing voters and Democratic left wing voters both want to tax millionaires, unionise, public funding for healthcare and education, then that is the policial centre by definition.

        And anyone not for these things is a far right radical, including the neolib wing of the DNC.

        My point is that despite how it is portrayed everywhere, the US is not in general a right wing conservative country, and neither are the rural areas.

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          then that is the policial centre by definition.

          By the shitty neoliberl “logic” that got us into this exact scenario

          It’s crazy to still be repeating this, but:

          Stop listening to what neoliberals told you. Virtually none of it was based on fact it was just whatever they thought would excuse their behavior.

          Doing what you suggested is to the left of both parties last presidential candidate. Voters don’t want that because some voters from both parties want it

          They want it because voters across the political spectrum approve of progressive policy

          That’s why the billionaires are so fucking scared

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            You still don’t understand that your efforts are part of what got Trump elected?

            When will you start acting differently?

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      Import limits don’t protect jobs. They make it so that foreign products compete more in other markets that domestic products want to succeed in.

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      Harris had the majority of that on her platform and no one seemed to even care, acting as if she’s literally just Trump lite despite being incredibly far from that.

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      This is worth a read, tbh

      I think the DNC strategy of letting the Overton window lead them by the nose is deeply fucking stupid too, but working on deprogramming the maga cultists is frankly unrelated to the Democratic Party - and in fact, the process would likely be helped by doing one’s best to leave political parties largely out of the discussion altogether.

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        I rather not have another southern will raise BS. Fuck them, hang them all and recover correctly.

        I rather die killing them than have these fuck continue to reproduce their cancer spawns.

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            Sherman didn’t go far enough and reconstruction was too lenient which is why things are the way they are. You don’t compromise with cancer, you remove the tumor. You’re part of the problem.

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              They let 2 million nazis survive after giving material support to the holocaust and look what happened there, nazis all over the fucking place. Kill em all, and make the survivors live like rats. There’s too much shit to deal with in the world to let fascists live amongst us any more.

              Idk why people get so pissy about it, they’re out there right now championing a second holocaust and I’m supposed to have moral qualms about militarily destroying their ideology down to the last atom? The adoration of the past failures of liberalism is not my burden to bear. We can and will forge a better future.

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              I’m not an American so no I’m not part of the problem, you are your own problem, you all cultivated your society in the last 70(?), the right ànd the left in equal measures. Yes, it feels good to think you have the moral high ground but you don’t, you are all guilty of destroying your own society, you are just reaching the bottom now.

              What is happening now is just a symptom of what you all have created knowingly and willingly.

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                Anyone who suggests compromising with fascists is part of the problem. You don’t need to be American to be a problem, contrary to most Europeans thoughts.

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                  Yeah you just keep denying you’ve been creating this too, your “left” is more right than European far right.

                  You’re all fascists by civilized standards.

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    Well, it’s too late. They needed to be not stupid during the last election. Now, Trump will likely just continue his reign of destruction, ignoring opposition, constitution and courts.