Democratic members of Congress who were part of a scuffle with law enforcement officers at an ICE facility in New Jersey may face arrests, the Department of Homeland Security confirmed to Axios Saturday.
Why it matters: It would be a major escalation in the Trump administration’s arrests of politicians and other public servants, including the mayor of Newark and a judge in Milwaukee.
- DHS is accusing the House Democrats of assaulting law enforcement. The lawmakers say they were the ones who were assaulted.
- The lawmakers involved in the incident: Reps. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-N.J.), Rob Menendez (D-N.J.) and LaMonica McIver (D-N.J.).
If they get arrested, time to surround the facility in which they are held and prevent anyone from entering and leaving until they are released.
Good to hear that there are zero consequences so far for the ICE guys
Good on them for showing the fuck up. ICE needs to be banned from having any jurisdiction under local, county, or state law.
Yes, that’s not a power that was ever given to the states, but nobody ever gave the Federal Government the power to abandon the 5th amendment and send people off to die in a foreign megaprison.
Whatever happens, ICE cannot continue to exist after this is over. The whole fucking agency needs to be dismantled, and not one single agent should ever work in law enforcement or security again, if they can even see daylight after being held to account for their crimes.
The Judiciary will have a fucking field day…
…until they get disappeared by ICE.
Democrats didn’t have the will to arrest Trump, and now guess what…
Good thing Merrick Garland dragged his feet, probably so the democrats could fundraise on Trump.
And Schumer will send another strongly worded letter.
Freaking ass had the chance to alter history potentially and he fucked it up.
They released some body cam footage but it doesn’t show that so I’m assuming they aren’t releasing the video of the ICE agent getting body slammed by a Congressperson because it’s rad as fuck and that Congressperson would instantly be named Speaker of the House, Smack Down Champion, and a Cardinal by Chicago Pope regardless of their faith tradition.
Or maybe it just didn’t actually happen.
The rabid Congresswoman that did the alleged assaulting:
Contrast with these softies got their asses handed to them
This checks out!
Now this is a SLAMming I can get behind. Get SLAMMED, idiots.
She body slammed one and threw the rest off the prison roof like when Undertaker threw Mankind off the cage in that Hell in the Cell match.
“God almighty! God almighty! As God as my witness, he is broken in half!”
Bah Gawd!
Honestly makes me miss ShittyMorph
Wait what happened to Shittymorph?
For the unaware, u/ShittyMorph was once a prolific redditor, who was a mainstay on the website, so much so he became the beta testers for tips on reddit. While haven’t been on reddit for years, I do fondly remember most of the interactions he had with people. I don’t think I’ll ever forget how he donated his kidney to someone who was there in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.
That man had a family!
Fascists are the biggest cry bullies.
Assault includes things as simple as unwanted touching. Not all assault is body slamming someone. Spitting at someone is assault.
Battery. Assault is threatening, battery involves physical touch, no matter how light.
No, Assault includes threatening, but also can be actual physical touch no matter how light. Battery is more often used when there is physical touch, but Assault can be too and is still the correct term.
Yes however someone said there was body slamming. Still waiting for the footage
By the politicians? I’d love to see that so hopefully if it exists it comes out haha
My point however was that the “rabid congresswoman” absolutely could have assaulted the police.
“We actually have body camera footage of some of these members of Congress assaulting our ICE enforcement officers, including body slamming a female ICE officer. So we will be showing that to viewers very shortly.”
- Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin, speaking to CNN
But sure, she could have by strictest definition. No disagreement. Cops could have stayed on their side of the fence too though, never allowing Grams to body slam.
She’ll get around to it once she finishes finals week
Glad we agree that little ol’ Grams is capable of assault.
You’re missing the fucking point. Nobody is disputing that there might have been assault. Congratulations on winning an argument that you were having with your imagination
The Atlantic has a great piece this month about how we saying the judicial system split in two, Watch for more of this and increasing penalties, some of them won’t be let out of jail eventually. And we’ll just be disappearing our political opponents.
They need to pull a “No u” with dRump and release an arrest warrant for the treasonous 47th and his goons. 😬
Too bad they don’t have the balls to do things even at these level… Hopefully they get their heads out their ass before it’s too late.
Spineless Democracts “Relax everyone. It is totally normal in a healthy democracy when the Executive branch, in this cause President Trump is threatening to arrest Legislators.”
Are these spineless democrats in the room with us now?
Are they whispering this into your ear?
While, in front of your eyes, in this article, actual democrats in the real world are showing the fuck up and getting arrested?
Are these spineless democrats in the room with us now?
I mean, this is lemmy. So yes.
There is a definetely a faction of Democracts who are willing to fight back. It seems that facton is the minority while the majority sit on their ass.
threatening to arrestLegislators…actually arresting Legislators
Yes! The take home message of this article is that Democrats are spineless and wouldn’t risk themselves to stand up against fascism. You put it so succinctly that I felt the need to highlight your comment.
We need to air as much ire against Democrats as possible and consider sitting out the next election if they don’t start doing something to try to stop these illegal detentions by that other party that doesn’t really need to be our focus right now.
Yea sit out the election and really let the republicans win! That’ll show them!
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There is a definetely a faction of Democracts who are willing to fight back. It seems that facton is the minority while the majority sit on their ass.
Hardly. The majority fight the faction that fights their republican buddies.
Denocracts
I don’t know why someone downvoted you. Your comment couldn’t have been dripping with more sarcasm if you tried.
It’s hard to go sarcastically with a comment so blatantly stupid when so many people appear to believe it already.
It is the blue MAGA and neoliberals. There are plenty of them in Lemmy. Any thing that will say their policies no longer work and it what led us to Donald Trump, and they be like: “Don’t touch my precioussss! I am filthy richesss!”
At least they not as loud as they were and chanting “vote blue, no matter who” since Chuck Schumer gave the Republicans the pass on the previous budget bill.
Are you saying the blue MAGA downvoted my comment because they didn’t understand it was sarcastic or because you didn’t understand it was sarcastic?
I was half asleep and missed your second paragraph. Lol.
It is the stupidity of participation that equals what they call it “blue maga” because someone else declared it. “Don’t touch my precious” is something cast upon you… it’s your curse and you now wear it… only because someone views being liberal a terrible effort that deserves a name. You don’t value civil rights… apparently you are blue maga… you are a label not a human.
The “blue MAGA” usually refers to tone-deaf centrist Democrats who maybe socially progressive, but economically on the right. They refuse to acknowledge the ramifications of jobs outsourcing, without offering alternative jobs to replace the outsourced one, and then call the working class – who by the way used to vote Democrat-- as “stupid, imbecile and red neck Hillbillies”. Blue MAGA are also NIMBYs who tend to object to building more affordable housing because it will bring down the property value in their area.
In other words, blue MAGA believe in social justice, but think economic justice is a step too far. The working class who try to voice their genuine economic concerns, are scoffed aside as idiots and condescended by elitist blue MAGA. And then they wonder why the working class turned to right. The blue MAGA (let’s just call them neoliberals because that’s what they are actually called in the rest of the world), are just as complicit in the rise of fascism. The neoliberals don’t want their precious stocks and corporate lobby money touched and would rather see Trump and Republicans remain in office, than actually return to keeping in touch with the working class.
And the “MAGA” IN ALL CAPS part comes from where?
From the way they act like a cult around their preferred political party, similar to the non-blue variety, and attacks anyone that criticises the Democrats regardless of the validity of the criticism. They’re a vocal minority, but part of the DNC support base, nonetheless.
The downvotes are more likely to be from people who share the sentiment of the original comment.
Well… that’s not really what I got out of this, and I don’t see how your suggestions would help… But if it’s what you think is best I’ll do it. You’ve never steered me wrong before.
Paddle onward, brother!
Oh right, between ICE agents and house politicians, the latter really are the ones who everyone would believe to be the ones physically assaulting someone.
I know the police aren’t allowed to detain a congress person heading to DC for congress business, does that not apply when they are at a federally run facility to conduct official business? They let them tour eventually so obviously they are aware of why they showed up, contradicting any claims they make about unlawful entry or whatever excuse they come up with.
Is there no immunity of parlamentarians in the US? Not a rhetoric question, I just don’t know.
Unless they’re on their way to a session of Congress (in which case they get to ignore a multitude of vehicular laws), not really LEGALLY. De facto, they’ve been immune from prosecution in a lot of cases (and moreover immune to actual consequences) because congresspeople are, by and large, wealthy, white, and male.
If there is there shouldn’t be. Things like diplomatic immunity are terrible and should not exist.
Would you mind to elaborate? That fact that you think something was “terrible” is not an argument. I think, you don’t really have an idea how immunity actually works. It’s not synonymous to “impunity”.
Sure - someone with diplomatic immunity shouldn’t get to break any law they want without facing any consequences.
Ready the muskets.
Democrats: break the law
Trump: “Well ok arrest them”
Democrats: Pikachu
When the law is unethical, breaking it is a moral duty. The democrats going to jail now have infinitely more spine than the republicans who hurried off to the underground tunnels during J6 only to turn around and claim it was a totally peaceful tour.
Mmmmm, boots taste delicious, don’t you think?
Republicans: break the law
OsrsNeedsF2P: “The democrats broke the law!”
Please stop assaulting me, you’re breaking the law.
See how easy it is to just say things?
