• ProbablyUnwise@anarchist.nexus
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      a distinction that means jack shit if the DoJ and Congress is loyal to him. he’s untouchable as long as he controls those two organizations

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        Guess that means you should get out and vote in the next mid-terms then? Flip Congress…save the world?

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        It doesn’t matter. The ruling reinforced the fact that the president has very limited authority to simply implement tariffs unilaterally…and none of these latest justifications are anywhere closer to being valid, than the ones he used before.

        According to the latest Supreme Court rulings, Congress is the only branch of government that can authorize the kinds of tariffs Trump keeps threatening to impose on other countries that don’t bend the knee to his whims. So, he’s just pissing into the wind here.

        • cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au
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          Well, are the tariffs being charged or aren’t they?

          Your technicalities don’t really matter for shit if nobody cares. A law is not a magic spell; it’s just some shit people said.

          When we all are used to laws being things nobody wants that don’t serve anyone, what’s the justification for one mother fucker’s statements being superior to another? Somebody said it, so I won’t be punished for doing it that way, I don’t really care about my job, why does it matter?

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          He doesn’t care and the shit goes on because nobody stops him.

          Oooooo look the courts say you cant do that! You can’t collect tariffs, give that money back (to the corporations, not the people who paid the tariffs).

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            Ok. But, you get that they stopped, though…right? Or, does that not count, in your mind? Sure, they do damage before they get stopped…but, they still do get stopped.

            So, yeah…look at the courts say you can’t do that. And then look at them stop doing it.

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              Listen, I’ll write it slowly:

              Trump: makes illegal tariffs

              Business: charges extra for tariffs

              Taxpayer: pays business extra for tariffs

              Government: collects money from business for tariffs

              Courts: illegal tariffs are illegal

              Government: shrugs OK, reimburses business

              Taxpayer: wtf???

              Wash, fucking rinse, repeat. He will keep doing it because it works you absolute plank

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                See, I think you and I are focusing on completely different things. I couldn’t care less about how Trump is ripping off Americans. I care about how his tariffs impact Canada. If him and his friends are all double dipping off American idiots who keep paying for everything twice…then that’s on them for not doing more to stop him from ripping them off.

                As long as the laws stop his tariffs from fucking the rest of the world over, then as far as I’m concerned the law is working. Nearly all of the tariffs he first imposed on literally every country on the planet that had a trade deficit with the US, have been lifted. The only ones that are left, are with his major trade partners, Canada included. Seeing those lifted too, would be ideal. And if the US taxpayers have to pay for it, no one here in Canada is going to shed a tear for them.

                The bottom line is, none of this matters. What he is doing is illegal…not just according to US law, but also according to international law, in most cases. Sure, he’s ripping off Americans in the process and fucking things up for the rest of us…but in the end, it’s irrelevant. We just need to stop indulging him, and wait for the courts to overturn whatever stupid shit he’s doing today…because tomorrow it won’t matter.

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                  I agree wholeheartedly, I wish that countries unwound just appease him, then do whatever the fuck they want (like, ignore whatever he demanded).

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        Nothing has actually happened yet, this time. It may not even get that far, since the ruling has already been made, a lower court decision may already be enough to stop it before it even gets started. That’s how “precedent” works. The more you try and fail, the easier it is to slap that shit down…until eventually there are no more ways to try.

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      You can say its illegal all you want, hell you can make a song out of it, but what are you going to do about it.

      Nothing. What’s anyone down there going to do about it. Nothing

      That makes it now legal.

      Arrest innocent people. Nothing Shoot people. Nothing Rape kids. Nothing.