… that powerful tradition faces an unprecedented challenge.
No, it doesn’t.
Blow it out your ass, MSN. 💨
What a worthless attempt at journalism.
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Fuck Israhell
the link seems fucked?
Thanks for the heads up, updated
I think the Leahy laws state its unlawful for the US government to in any way condone of support any country committing genocide. The parade should be stopped.
Gotta add a ! before the []()
Awesome. Thank you for the tip!
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The fact that an illegitimate state has an annual celebration parade in another county is fucked
Fuck Israel and fuck Zionists
i get that if a city has a significant diaspora population with a certain heritage, the diaspora celebrating their culture isn’t a bad thing.
but that isn’t the case with Zionism, there’s lots of Jews in NY and they do celebrate their culture, but that’s not the same as celebrations a genocidal nation.
Well, notably, most of the Jewish population are not Israeli. There isn’t a large diaspora of Israeli people in NY. As you said, it isn’t a Jewish celebration. It has next to nothing to do with these people.
Well, notably, most of the Jewish population are not Israeli.
They are though. Most of them have dual citizenship.
Citation?
Wikipedia says there are 960,000 jews in NYC.
This says there are ~30,000 Israelis in New York State.
This has similar figures.
So, on the high end, ~3% of Jews in NYC are Israeli.
Your first source doesn’t specify how they’re defining “Israeli” and whether they’re including those with dual citizenship.
Your second source says
By contrast, demographic compilations such as World Population Review list state-level counts of Israelis (for example, roughly 32,071 in New York state and about 30,566 in California), which suggest far smaller base numbers if one focuses strictly on Israeli-born residents recorded in U.S. data [4].
It does not account for people applying for Israeli citizenship after being born in the U.S. meaning 32,000 is a lower end and likely a smaller percentage of the entire population of dual citizenship holders.
You and I are reading that part you quoted very differently. I’m reading it to say that the actual Israel-born people are far lower, because this number includes others, presumably dual citizens.
Regardless, you have provided zero sources, and these are the closest I’ve seen, and the number is far lower than 50%.
I also wouldn’t personally include a dual citizen who has never lived in Israel. They allow any person of Jewish descent to apply for dual citizenship. It hardly makes you Israeli if you’ve never lived there, no matter what the paperwork says. I could write a document that says I’m a Moon person, but that doesn’t mean that I’m actually a person from the moon.
I also wouldn’t personally include a dual citizen who has never lived in Israel.
Statements like this make me think you’re operating from an undisclosed bias. You wouldn’t even blink if I called them “American”. Your bias is especially suspicious when you close it with ridiculous statements like the following:
I could write a document that says I’m a Moon person, but that doesn’t mean that I’m actually a person from the moon.
We’re not talking about moon people, and we’re not talking about you. We’re talking about two sovereign governments recognizing an individual as a citizen of that country.
Americans are currently being treated as second class citizens within our own country as numerous U.S. politicians prioritize the interests and needs of Israelis. Dual citizens to Israel are participants in this egregious behavior whether they like it or not.
I did mention that a few times in that thread. I 100% agree with you.
I am mainly paranoid of reactionaries infiltrating anti-Zionist spaces and promoting genuine racism and antisemitism.
The original comment is OK, but could be sus as it sort of implies that celebrating foreign heritage is bad (they did say illegitimate and obviously meant Israel), but it could be a dog whistle.
I am paranoid and have seen Nazis try to sneak in places like these, they start with stuff similar to this. I AM NOT CALLING THAT COMMENTER A NAZI, OR AN INFILTRATOR. As that comment was valid, just that it warrants a few caveats and clarifications.
Yeah, honestly one of the most dangerous things Israel has done for Jewish people is their whole “criticism of Israel is antisemitic” nonsense. That’s had the effect of making anyone critical of the zionist project appear very similar to actual antisemites. It isn’t an issue we caused, but it is worth looking out for.
They celebrste a foreign country involved in genocide and colonization. This has nothing to do with jewish culture.
100% agree. just wanted to say that diaspora celebrating their heritage is a normal and a good thing.
But Zionism isn’t that. Especially considering that the Jewish communities in NY were built by the non Zionist jews who fled Europe, while the Zionists went to destroy Palestine.
Your comment is irelevant to the topic because this post is about israel parade day not judaism parade day. They can celebrate the culture in International Jewish Day on August 2nd
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The fact that an illegitimate state has an annual celebration parade in another county is fucked
Fuck Israel and fuck Zionists
was replying to that, Just saying that celebrating another country isn’t necessarily bad, an outward claim like that can be racist. Zionism bad. but I’m afraid of statements that might be racist dogwhistles.
Celebrating a genocidal state is never s good thing. It is like celebrating Nazi germany. Like I said there is multiple real jewish culture events
I think we’re accidentally stuck in a loop where we’re both in agreement.
Fuck zionism in all of it’s forms, it shouldn’t get parades.
I just wanted to add a caveat that it is 100% ok to celebrate the cultural heritage of communities in your city. And “Israel” isn’t one of those.
Because the original statement could be misconstrued into a xenophobic statement. I assume it wasn’t, but still, that should be said.
And again, FUCK ZIONISM. Fuck it with a syphilitic cactus. Just got banned from a community for saying Fuck zionism in a more colorful language.
Personal, I’m dedicating so much of my energy fighting zionism, I’m literally building a local Bund revival, as well as weekly protests and help organize Palestinian events. So please, don’t assume I’m a zionist.
