I want AOC to be President, but I think Americans are too sexist to vote for her. We’re a callow, superficial people.
If the Democrats were wise they would choose the next candidate now in order to get the party going in a specific direction, just like the Republicans have done unofficially from 2020 to 2024
She will run, and the DNC will sheepdog her like they did Bernie, keeping everyone herded up in the party until they realized they got fucked over, again.
Bernie’s being doing some rallies with her recently. If I were to guess, Bernie’s not going to run for POTUS again, he’s going to endorse her.
Bernie could get the VP nod.
So if not her then who will it be?
Another neoliberal.
And both she and liberals will still keep defending the party after it.
Yes, she’s never questioned the party leadership or directions. :rolls eyes:
She’d be better in party leadership and not pursue the Presidency (yet).
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/24/mpeq-a24.html
It is from this standpoint that the World Socialist Web Site has exposed the fraudulent “Fighting Oligarchy” campaign mounted by Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The large turnouts at their rallies, as well as the huge participation in the April 5 and April 19 protests against the Trump administration, express the social anger among millions of working people and their desire to fight back. But Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez never indict capitalism as a system or call for a struggle against it. And they supported and hailed the Biden administration even as it was presiding over the greatest-ever accumulation of wealth on the part of the financial aristocracy.
For all their fulminations against the oligarchy, they carefully avoid advancing any demand that would deprive the billionaires of their ill-gotten riches. They pretend that society can be changed without a drastic redistribution of wealth, which requires the expropriation of the billionaires.
I am so fucking sick of people demanding perfection. In this case, perfection is very much the enemy of good. AOC and Sanders are some of the absolute best people currently a part of our political class. Insisting on perfection - especially when your definition of “perfection” would likely alienate a meaningful amount of people who currently support them - is counterproductive to the degree that I question whether people who say that shit are even arguing in good faith.
The person you replied to quoted World Socialist Website, which is run by a bunch of boomer edgelords who mentally never grew up and still thinks we’re still in the 1960s. The only socialist publisher worth reading is Jacobin, even though I may not agree everything with them.
You say “perfection”. What I think you meant to say was “principled anti capitalism”.
I’m not asking for perfection. I’m asking for literally any semblance of solidarity or anticapitalism.
Regardless, until a truly anti capitalist party gains power, the devolution into fascism will continue.
In 30 years, when the choice is between a dem who wants 15 genocides and a Republican who wants 16, yall will still be bleating this tired ass “perfection as an enemy of good” motto. Think of a new one, please. Or even try to start defining what your idea of “perfection” actually is.
It seems to me that the US is unfortunately too “-ist” to elect AOC.
She voted for Take Down law that Trump will use for against anyone who goes against him. She no fucking progressive fuck off no to future neo libs.
This is such a stupid take. The other guy does 100 things wrong. AOC does 99 things right, and 1 wrong, and you want to discard her entirely for it. Politics isn’t about being perfect. It’s about being closer to your ideals than the other party. You’re rehashing the stupid “but genocide Kamala” argument again. Look where that got us.
Don’t let perfect get in the way of good.
I want Tim as president and AOC as vice since I dont want to risk the bunch of idiots who wont vote for a woman fucking everything up again.
Kamala’s campaign wasn’t fucked because she’s a woman, it was fucked because she’s a careerist who doesn’t believe in anything.
Two things can be true.
I know a lot of women who didn’t vote for her because she was a woman. Shit is crazy to me, but that doesn’t mean it’s not the reality. I’m sure there are a shocking number of people who didn’t vote for her because she’s a woman.
When do you think it’ll be safe to nominate a woman?
This is the ideal progressive ticket, IMO. It’s not as scary for the mid as having a female President (grow the fuck up, guys), but she’ll still be able to provide her support and opinion far above her current station. People seem to really like Tim, which is great.
But in the end none of it matters. They’re all historically pro-Israel and people don’t forget that. They’ve begun to change their tune, but only just now. It seems disingenuous to get votes, which just seems…hollow.
Not sure I read your comment right, but are you saying. That Tim Walz’s and AOC’s support for Israel is the single-issue that’s stopping Democrats - or at the very least Walz/AOC - from winning elections?
I mean, if it were that easy…
That Tim Walz’s and AOC’s support for Israel is the single-issue that’s stopping Democrats - or at the very least Walz/AOC - from winning elections?
I mean, it’s a significant swing factor. It’s clearly not the only factor, but you have entire communities in the US not voting for candidates because of their stances on Israel. You would think this past election would be a glaringly obvious example, but I guess not.
Gallop polls suggest it’s a significant issue or voters;
Democrats’ sympathies for the Israelis dipped to 38%, while the reading for Palestinians jumped 11 points to 49% […]
About 50% of them. To imply that they’re not losing elections because of the support of Israel is supremely ignorant and stupid.
