• Goretantath@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    I want Tim as president and AOC as vice since I dont want to risk the bunch of idiots who wont vote for a woman fucking everything up again.

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      11 days ago

      Kamala’s campaign wasn’t fucked because she’s a woman, it was fucked because she’s a careerist who doesn’t believe in anything.

      • Xanza@lemm.ee
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        11 days ago

        Two things can be true.

        I know a lot of women who didn’t vote for her because she was a woman. Shit is crazy to me, but that doesn’t mean it’s not the reality. I’m sure there are a shocking number of people who didn’t vote for her because she’s a woman.

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      11 days ago

      This is the ideal progressive ticket, IMO. It’s not as scary for the mid as having a female President (grow the fuck up, guys), but she’ll still be able to provide her support and opinion far above her current station. People seem to really like Tim, which is great.

      But in the end none of it matters. They’re all historically pro-Israel and people don’t forget that. They’ve begun to change their tune, but only just now. It seems disingenuous to get votes, which just seems…hollow.

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        11 days ago

        Not sure I read your comment right, but are you saying. That Tim Walz’s and AOC’s support for Israel is the single-issue that’s stopping Democrats - or at the very least Walz/AOC - from winning elections?

        I mean, if it were that easy…

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          6 days ago

          That Tim Walz’s and AOC’s support for Israel is the single-issue that’s stopping Democrats - or at the very least Walz/AOC - from winning elections?

          I mean, it’s a significant swing factor. It’s clearly not the only factor, but you have entire communities in the US not voting for candidates because of their stances on Israel. You would think this past election would be a glaringly obvious example, but I guess not.

          Gallop polls suggest it’s a significant issue or voters;

          Democrats’ sympathies for the Israelis dipped to 38%, while the reading for Palestinians jumped 11 points to 49% […]

          About 50% of them. To imply that they’re not losing elections because of the support of Israel is supremely ignorant and stupid.