I had the same initial reaction you did, but I think it’s just because of people like Musk trying to do sicko shit with it that I just immediately had that association despite the fact that there are countless legitimate medical applications.
Paraplegics would be like 50th in line for this kind of neuroprosthesis. Most paraplegics would probably forego experimental neurosurgery in order to get a slightly better mobility aid. (Which at this point is the best this can do. Which isn’t nothing. But the number of people who hate their wheel chair that much isnt as high as you may think)
You may be thinking of tetra/quadriplegics.
EDIT:I should not speculate on the future of health technologies.
Zero mention of paraplegia or paraplegics. That one does mention tetraplegics/quadroplegics as a possible group to receive this kind of neuroprosthetic. As i said prior, i believe you may be conflating “paraplegia” and “tetraplegia”/“quadriplegia” and “paralysis” into one thing.
Edit:
Let’s define our terms so we don’t end up starting an argument unnecessarily
Paralysis: an inhibition of motor function. I.e. something that is supposed to be able to move, isn’t. (Palsies are also considered a form of paralysis, but let’s keep it simple for now)
This covers everything from sleep paralysis to tetraplegia/quadriplegia, really everything apart from mechanical obstructions (generally) counts.
Paraplegia: Disturbance of the motor and sensory function of the legs and lower body. Likely due to some congenital affectation of the spinal canal or spinal injury.
Some paraplegics can walk, some can’t even move a single muscle, some have absolutely no feeling south of the navel, some have most of their sensory functions intact, and some have a spastic disorder. It’s a wide spectrum. But if it affects your hands it is not paraplegia.
Tetra/quadriplegia: there’s some technical reason tetra ia more correct tham quadri but I forget it.
You banged your cervical spine (Neck) and now your motor functions below that are impaired, sensory functions may also be inhibited. Just as with paraplegia its a wide spectrum but importantly it covers arms AND legs (Hence quadri [four] plegia).
I don’t really follow how this distinction relates to the original point I was making to be honest. Please explain why it matter which specific disability the chip helps alleviate?
It matters both insofar as the specific experience people have of disability matters and that you insisted that you were talking about a specific thing in spite of correction.
I once again ask how me not realizing the specific distinction is relevant to the original point I was making. Are you suggesting that suffering of people with specific conditions is less important than others?
However every human being in a capitalist system from now until the sun engulfs the planet is a slave unable to ever break free due to brainwashing, surveillance, and control chips implanted in all humans within these societies to prevent revolt. This is forced with economic coercion and later done at birth as an “equality” measure since you can no longer work, get benefits, etc without one.
You’ve made a small number better but doomed humanity to be a slave race. Good job. Not a worthwhile trade off.
Such a thing should exist under communism but under capitalism it will be used to design unbreakable chains to subjugate humanity to the end of time and that and the suffering it will bring is unacceptable.
This is why I view even Chinese efforts as terrifying. Their research will not stay in China, it will be taken by the west and used in horrendous ways. Man is not responsible enough yet to have this kind of technology.
It’s pretty clear that capitalists have been maintaining social control in the west without any need for chips just fine. We don’t need some sci-fi tech, we’re already living in a society where people are atomized and unable to organize in a meaningful way.
I think it matters that there are billionaires talking about staffing their bunkers with brain chipped workers and security and that there are billionaires owning companies developing brain chips.
If you were a paraplegic then you might feel differently I suspect.
100% fair actually
I had the same initial reaction you did, but I think it’s just because of people like Musk trying to do sicko shit with it that I just immediately had that association despite the fact that there are countless legitimate medical applications.
yep yep you’re reading my mind
Yeah but not through psychic powers, you have an unsecured ssh version runnnng on your StemConnect
aw fuck
Can’t wait to have my first aneurism after someone runs a fresh exploit on the ASN.1 parser running directly on my neurons
Paraplegics would be like 50th in line for this kind of neuroprosthesis. Most paraplegics would probably forego experimental neurosurgery in order to get a slightly better mobility aid. (Which at this point is the best this can do. Which isn’t nothing. But the number of people who hate their wheel chair that much isnt as high as you may think)
You may be thinking of tetra/quadriplegics.
EDIT:I should not speculate on the future of health technologies.
I mean they’re already using this tech to help paraplegics in China today https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-026-03101-8
That’s not what the article says. The article does not mention paraplegics. It mentions paralysis. The two are related but distinct terms.
Here’s your hint dude. If it mentions a glove that can move your hand , it is not going to do anything for someone who is paraplegic.
ok what about this then? https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00849-6
Zero mention of paraplegia or paraplegics. That one does mention tetraplegics/quadroplegics as a possible group to receive this kind of neuroprosthetic. As i said prior, i believe you may be conflating “paraplegia” and “tetraplegia”/“quadriplegia” and “paralysis” into one thing.
Edit: Let’s define our terms so we don’t end up starting an argument unnecessarily
Paralysis: an inhibition of motor function. I.e. something that is supposed to be able to move, isn’t. (Palsies are also considered a form of paralysis, but let’s keep it simple for now) This covers everything from sleep paralysis to tetraplegia/quadriplegia, really everything apart from mechanical obstructions (generally) counts.
Paraplegia: Disturbance of the motor and sensory function of the legs and lower body. Likely due to some congenital affectation of the spinal canal or spinal injury. Some paraplegics can walk, some can’t even move a single muscle, some have absolutely no feeling south of the navel, some have most of their sensory functions intact, and some have a spastic disorder. It’s a wide spectrum. But if it affects your hands it is not paraplegia.
Tetra/quadriplegia: there’s some technical reason tetra ia more correct tham quadri but I forget it. You banged your cervical spine (Neck) and now your motor functions below that are impaired, sensory functions may also be inhibited. Just as with paraplegia its a wide spectrum but importantly it covers arms AND legs (Hence quadri [four] plegia).
I don’t really follow how this distinction relates to the original point I was making to be honest. Please explain why it matter which specific disability the chip helps alleviate?
It matters both insofar as the specific experience people have of disability matters and that you insisted that you were talking about a specific thing in spite of correction.
I once again ask how me not realizing the specific distinction is relevant to the original point I was making. Are you suggesting that suffering of people with specific conditions is less important than others?
hoping China has strict safeguards against the kind of cruelty to primates that Musk has me associating with this kind of research
Okay you’ve now helped every paraplegic on earth.
However every human being in a capitalist system from now until the sun engulfs the planet is a slave unable to ever break free due to brainwashing, surveillance, and control chips implanted in all humans within these societies to prevent revolt. This is forced with economic coercion and later done at birth as an “equality” measure since you can no longer work, get benefits, etc without one.
You’ve made a small number better but doomed humanity to be a slave race. Good job. Not a worthwhile trade off.
Such a thing should exist under communism but under capitalism it will be used to design unbreakable chains to subjugate humanity to the end of time and that and the suffering it will bring is unacceptable.
This is why I view even Chinese efforts as terrifying. Their research will not stay in China, it will be taken by the west and used in horrendous ways. Man is not responsible enough yet to have this kind of technology.
It’s pretty clear that capitalists have been maintaining social control in the west without any need for chips just fine. We don’t need some sci-fi tech, we’re already living in a society where people are atomized and unable to organize in a meaningful way.
They want total control without having to maintain states.
It’s pretty clear that you need something akin to state structure to maintain that level of control in practice.
Not if you have technology akin to magic.
Not saying this will happen but there are definitely billionaires fantasying about it and them trying and failing can still have outcomes.
Sure, people can fantasize about all kinds of stuff, but what matters at the end of the day is what’s materially possible.
I think it matters that there are billionaires talking about staffing their bunkers with brain chipped workers and security and that there are billionaires owning companies developing brain chips.
I expect the US will implode long before this sort o thing comes to fruition.
the west is gonna research shit like that anyway though see: neuralink
Brain chips can be hacked, universal brain control is one communist virus away from handing the entire workforce over to the CCP
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