• JustSo [she/her, any]@hexbear.net
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    Caitlyn Jenner was and is such a fucking poison pill in the process of trans rights recognition and awareness.

    Such pure distilled American bullshit.

    You probably couldn’t engineer a worse way for our experiences and struggles to have been brought to public consciousness even if you tried.

    Why was it her? Why was it, “look! look at this lovely person! why would not want to do everything in your power to ease the burdens on this POOR UNFORTUNATE MILLIONAIRE KILLER NARCISSIST?”

    And for like the better part of a decade it was somehow actually effective? The mind boggles.

    But what a dangerous foundation to have established. Look now, as this horribly unsympathetic figure is again the face in the media “pushing back” and for what? A special dispensation for being one of the good ones.

    Yea, I’m thinkin its Marg Bar America all day long.

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      I remember my heart sank when I heard the news of her coming out and this is exactly what I was thinking. One of the worst possible people to have come out as trans, and at such a pivotal moment too, as well as instantly overshadowing actually good representation for cis society to understand our struggles through. What a fucking shit show.

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        It was really really odd and unsettling to me, to see the media and pop culture take the ball from the activist front and run with it so far and so fast. With so little regard for nuance and so much time for scandal.

        can’t really explain this in a way that will make sense to people who are vulnerable now and facing active or imminent repression, but I expected shit to get a lot worse a lot quicker for our people in reaction to how manufactured our acceptance felt at the time.

        I underestimated how authentically people adopt the new thing into their world view when society tells them the wind has changed. I sometimes wonder if it was the last big cultural influence campaign executed via the old broadcast media. Not to discount the impact of activist work but shit changed SO fast I’m still a bit disoriented.

        Did it feel organic to you? like, I never have much reason to talk about this anymore and you can’t really trust cis people with a conversation about it even if they had been positioned to witness the process of change. Just wondering if what I’m describing resonates at all?

        Feels entirely possible that I read too much into everything then and now, with a big side of conspiracy brain along for the ride. I’m not really thinking “conspiracy” just… it was weird right?

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      Yeah that tracks. “Caitlyn Jenner is a piece of shit” and “Caitlyn Jenner deserves to have the correct gender on her passport” aren’t mutually exclusive ideas. People treat this shit like it’s transactional, like gender identity etc are only valid if you’re a decent person.

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        Like. You can even have limited empathy for her specifically and maybe even a bit of schadenfreude without going all the way to “fuck you, it’s correct that you are misgendered because you specifically suck”. I won’t lose sleep over Caitlyn receiving the exact treatment she has advocated that trans people should receive… But it’s still wrong.

        Edit: to take the most extreme analogy: you may not feel sorry for a kapo being pushed into the gas chamber but neither should you take pleasure in it. Even if you don’t care about the victim, Nazis carrying out their agenda is always bad.

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    Oh no the leopard ate your face? Did you think you were rich enough to avoid being food for it Caitlyn? She’s a perfect example of Americans going completely against their own interests and not being self aware enough they’re in bed with literal Nazis that fantasize about putting them in camps.

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    I have a friend who lost his passport while doing a medical tourism for trans care and he had his reissued passport changed back to his dead gender and now he can’t travel overseas due to safety concerns.

    I refuse to travel back to the USA from Spain for the same reason and I haven’t been able to see my family in over a year.

    Sorry Caitlyn, you’ll just have to run people over locally for the time being.