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    • SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml
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      Gas is like 2.50+ per liter in The Netherlands and everyone is just… letting it happen? I swear to God it’s the most passive people I’ve ever seen, quietly behaving themselves to bankruptcy.

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        That makes me curious about something.

        What will take Europeans to say “enough is enough” and start an uprising? Will an increase in food prices do the trick or a fuel crisis beyond the breaking point? Or maybe forced conscriptions might do the trick?

        What privilege is keeping Europeans into passivity?

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          Probably similar to Americans. They need to go three missed meals, collectively. Stripped of all employment, since that’s what Americans love more than anything, but empty grocer shelves, long bread lines. Even the gas prices are nowhere near enough. The misery of the masses need to be raised to a fever-high pitch, such that the state apparatus and its functioning find it impossible maintain the old order. Western states need to lose legitimacy, essentially.

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          Imperialism.

          One of the biggest effect of imperialism in the imperial core is that it pacify the working class by turning the existential antagonistic contradiction of class struggle into a non-antagonistic contradiction about which class gets to have the biggest share of the imperial plunder. Proles in Europe get to have “free” healthcare and education, and relatively high wages for relatively short workdays and workweeks, because the bourgeois can make up for the losses in surplus value by going to Africa (and other places too of course, but mainly Africa) and makes the proles of Africa work inhumanly long work days/weeks for almost nothing, and sell the product back to the rich European proles. In other words, the benefits and good wages and work-life balance the European proles enjoy are literally payed for by the exploitation of global south proles, these are the European proles’ share of the imperial plunder, and “leftist” European movements are merely about increasing that share, which, of course, necessarily implies continuing the plunder so that there is a plunder to share in the first place.

          This means that, in order for European proles to stop being passive, the plunder needs to be taken away entirely. A revolution in Europe isn’t happening before they are fully kicked out of Africa.

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            I’m reminded of what Marx said about socialism being impossible in Britain until Ireland was decolonized. He was dead-on with that and it applies to all colonial powers.

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          A two bedroom terraced roof house that is falling apart costs half a million at this point lmao I don’t know what will be enough

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            Nothing. Nothing will motivate white westerners to fight for themselves. They are doomed to suffer under self imposed fascist oppression. Because suffering and dieing is easier then having the courage to do something about it. Is also easier then actually learning something and understanding what is happening and why. They will use their last moments of earth watching some reality TV talent show or some “cop-aganda” slop while the world literally burns around them.