Can germany even get much stronger right now? I feel like the de-industrialisation and self inflicted energy prices are going to kneecap that pretty hard.

Ukraine collapsing also seems to be a sure thing and i feel like EU, and especially germany, will reap some consequences here too since the remaining Ukrainians need to be supported and the EU+germany, due to their massive pro-ukraine propaganda machine, will have to pickup the bill or face their own people, who are now convinced that ukrainians are hurt little angels that need to be supported.

Has she even tested positive? She was slightly sick and that’s why they are treating her rn to even figure out if she has it

Like a 14 year old girl having touched their favourite pop singer

Again, were those demands set by the very same America that is also threatening the country and its people?

I have to be honest, I am not exactly strong in my knowledge and judgement, which is why i started with “most people here…”. A baby-marxist so to say.

I believe this post does a much better job than i could hope to do right now: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11003738

I hope you can excuse me not being able to debate these points though.

Did Delcy betray the revolution or something? Last i checked it is a “giving money to the robber in order to not get stabbed” situation.

I think the concessions given so far are largely seen as “what it takes to defend the country” by most people here.

The operation taking longer is exactly because NATO got involved. Now Russia switched to a war of attrition and making sure they don’t take on too many losses while they are also going to collapse the Ukrinazi state and forcing the EU and their bloodthirsty liberals to eat the cost of having thrown ukrainian men into the meat grinder.

The tactics and equipment used and destroyed are already NATO. The lifes lost, however, are not.

“Only US” and a bunch of european countries and some asian one’s as well. Them not officially declaring war, does not mean they are not involved.

Have Russia and China been brought up like this before? As direct partners? That kinda sounds like a big deal considering that China does not like being directly involved.

Sure, seems like other EU countries have more if a problem in recognizing that

Spain getting more based day by day.

Does Sanchez and his party have a history of flip flopping and paying lip-service? Or could this actually be their stance?

Why is Spain so based? They are obviously still neoliberals, but they do seem to be going against the grain.

Is there any material reason?

BDS is modeled on methods that were successful in overthrowing South African apartheid. They worked then.

I believe the more important force here was the organized, militant resistance of the South African working class and oppressed masses. China is offering help in that department already.

Boycotts will not work against Israel though. Israel is deeply integrated into global capitalism, in technology, military hardware, cybersecurity, and finance.

Unlike apartheid South Africa, which was largely a raw materials exporter and therefore more vulnerable to disinvestment.

The US, Germany, and the UK actively shield Israel diplomatically and economically, providing billions in military aid and trade deals that offset boycott effects.

Yes, several, none of the large important ones though. Syria, Lebanon, and Iran, even prior to the current conflict, have no trade with Israel.

Duh. Not the point. Obviously the direct victims of the genocidal entity won’t trade with said entity just for national security reasons alone.

I don’t believe Cuba or the DPRK do either.

Is the DPRK even allowed to trade with anyone other than China and Russia? Afaik they are sanctioned and blocked by the US and no one can even trade with the DPRK.

The point is to disrupt the settler project. Israelis are the biggest treatlerites on the planet, making Americans look like they’ve contentedly taken a vow of poverty. If you disrupt the treats, it becomes a lot harder to get settlers to stay. If China supplies 8% of consumer goods that’s a large portion of the treats.

That obviously won’t be allowed to happen. Do you genuinely think that the settlers and reserve army are just allowed to leave their station? America is calling the shots here. It would just be made illegal to leave and i will be honest, I don’t think the settler civillians would leave anyway because they are too invested in Israel.

Israel tiny country! Size of New Jersey!

Did you actually think i meant physical size?😭😭

Well I just fundamentally disagree with your analysis here

The fuck you mean “my analysis”? They literally told us over multiple decades that Israel is their most important project. Biden famously said over his entire career that, if Israel didn’t exists, they would need to invent it.

Like, how can you look at the entire situation right now and not conclude that the west asian region (“middle east”) is very important to control and that Israel is obviously the most vital part in that plan?

I think Israel causes the west far more trouble than it’s worth and is not even helpful for our imperial ambitions, along with causing internal collapse in the imperial core.

God, whenever i switch to Hexbear threads, the quality of analysis just plummets hard.

Mf actually just said that that Israel, the imperialist settler nation created by Germany, UK and the US, is not helpful for their imperial ambitions. Why tf do you think they burn so much money and political goodwill of their own people for Israel? Shits and giggles?

Israel is the last hope of the US to still have hegemony in their claws. These attacks are not random, but rather the US believing that the point of no return is about to be crossed by China and Iran and that they need to act now or fully lose their hegemony and imperial control.

The strait of Hormuz is closed because of Israel. Oil is approaching $200 a barrel because of Israel. Europeans are going to freeze to death this winter, because of Israel.

America started this war and genocide. Israel is not to be seen as an independent force. You clearly fell for the “israel is controlling US” propaganda. Please tell me you at least don’t believe that Israel is controlling trump via the epstein files😭

The Palestinians have asked for this. BDS is a Palestinian movement, and this is in fact what they ask for.

Cool. Didn’t ask about them though. China is only working via official channels to keep important diplomatic ties alive and as far as i know, the official “state” has not asked for any such thing. Even if they did, China can’t do much because of all the other reasons i mentioned

Again, China intervening more than they have already, would be seen as acts of war. Any sanction against Israel is innefective due to the aforementioned protection from the west and any effective sanction would need to include those countries as well.

I, again, hope that i do not need to tell you why that would be disastrous.

Any Hexbear thread of China devolves into people just going "Hey, why doesn’t China just casually start WW3?)

The thing is, boycotts have never really worked. Some companies might agree to the demands, but even then it has a tinge of “this is good for PR” to it.

Has any government dropped Israel as a trading partner? Would it matter? The US and Germany seem to be supplying the entire arsenal of Israel and they most certainly are not going to stop because of some boycott.

Sanctions also never really work unless it is american lead against a poor, small nation like Cuba or the DPRK. As soon as the sanctioned country is stronger than that it just doesn’t work. Russia seems to be okay and they had been sanctioned as well and even the DPRK is doing fine-ish thanks to nukes and Russia & China.

Especially the genocidal, unsinkable aircraft carrier called Israel is obviously going to be okay throughout Chinese sanctions. They just get a blank cheque from the EU and US anyway because Israel is the most important imperial tool they have.

Additionally, this entire thread has people talking about China doing an american style sanction with pressuring other countries into stopping trade with Israel as well. That will absolutely be considered an act of war by the west and i hope i don’t need to explain why that is a terrible idea.

Another part is that China is ML and analyses history through diamat and know that an empire that is crashing is extremely volatile, so attacking their most important control element directly would be disastrous.

Your entire comment hinges on the fact that china is just doing this one random unspeakable evil (in your mind) for…money? It seems like you have not understood China as an anti-imperialist, socialist state yet.

They mostly help with intel and providing weapons or building their factories, things that can’t easily be marketed as an attack on the west. China is building a world where anti-imperialist action can even take place and the US hegemony is dead. They wouldn’t be able to do that if they were as aggressive as y’all want them to be.

Has Iran even asked China for this? That’s another thing i dislike about Hexbearians, y’all always try to be some saviour. Maybe let the actual anti-imperialists work together how they want?

Most animals are sentient. Sapience is likely what you mean.

Also, tools have been a thing for a while in primates and weapons are just tools of warfare

Because we are not countries? Consumption is not trade.

Also, this requires you to believe that China is playing both sides here which nakes no sense considering how important Iran is for China and how unimportant Israel is for them.

America is keeping their unsinkable carrier afloat by itself. Trade is not support.

Yep, however from the article itself “List experiments have their own problems, however: researchers have found that because the questioning technique is more complicated, it introduces unintended reporting errors that may even outstrip errors from strategic misreporting. In other words, it may be that simpler direct questioning methods produce more accurate results.”

It also goes into other methodologies based on this bias and if the bias even exists in the first place and at the end they conclude:

In other words, people in China do not seem to self-censor based on fear. The authors conclude: “Across a variety of studies using different methodologies, a good deal of evidence suggests that the Chinese people are willing to answer politically sensitive questions in a truthful manner.”

So, the questionaire results seem trustworthy still and the list experiment results might have a “wtf are they even asking me” bias (and still come out ahead of every other country).

Who is Arya? And whose political decision?

I mean, as long as the pressure builds and there is no vent, it is entirely possible that they use nukes imo.

This might be an existential war for Iran, but i feel like the US elites are feeling like it is existential for them too even though the US as a whole may be able to survive, the elites might lose wealth and that is unacceptable.

Hey netherlands guy just so you know it immediately sets off my pattern-matching when a European comments in the thread at the same time as me & then only likes the worst post I made.

Who are you talking about? And what post?

Twitter etcetera has fashioned me into an inhuman entity & my wife has the same brain disease. Nobody will ever stop me.

What?