• AltMediaGuyOPMA
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    4 months ago

    I think she’s sincere. Trump’s whole candidacy in 2016 was based on destroying Jeb Bush by associating him with the Iraq war and how Americans need to spend money at home, not on “stupid wars in the Middle East”. So he has done a 180 on that, like he just talked about how we can’t pay for day care because we need money for the Iran war. For voters that were taken by this lie it’s understandable that they would have vertigo.

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        4 months ago

        Did any Nazis you mentioned show any remorse? I think she’s sincere, too. I don’t think she should hold public office anytime soon, but she’s not seeking it, so far.

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            4 months ago

            I don’t think MTG is an incorrigible monster. I think she was a useful idiot who is waking up to that fact. I still don’t think she should be in public office, though.

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                Why am I saying all this? It simply seems to me that many US citizens are quite obvious still unaware that their government - and indeed the majority of the billionaires who actually hold the reins - are textbook fascists.

                No argument against this. Most are stubbornly denying that Democrats are part and parcel of the fascist regime.

                My issue is, she was wrong. But she’s now admitting that. She should probably face sanctions and community service, but any more than that will discourage coming to terms with the truth, and speaking about it publicly. The biggest perpetrators going unpunished is heinous, so get them removed from society, them deal with the truth tellers who came to the truth late.

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        4 months ago

        alright. Well at the very least move her down on your list of “people to kill”.

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          I’ll put it this way.

          She either:

          1-Was always reasonable and was just doing this stupid hateful act to gain power on Trump’s coat tail.

          2-Is truly the hateful idiot we came to know and is putting on this reasonable facade to be on the “right side of things” when the Trump shit show comes to an end.

          Either way, she’s a grifter and cannot be trusted.

          People don’t just grow a brain and some decency overnight.

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      4 months ago

      If you trust her, then you are doing exactly what they want you to

      This is about dialling bsck the vicious hatred once they know how far they can push it, and then waiting that to become the new baseline

      Then they’ll push it again

      That’s how the Overton window works, and how stupid Americans think the Dems are “left wing” when by every metric they’re very far right

      Americans as a people are stupid on their best day due to the indoctrination and ruination of the education system

      Deliberate and transparent plays like this are a shameful symptom of this

      I don’t blame you, OP, but I’m disappointed

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      I too think she’s sincere. But I also think those people on soapboxes saying “the end is nigh!” Are also sincere. I honestly even think Trump is often sincere. He said everything out loud. Nothing he’s done is surprising, he was honest about all the awful shit he would do if re-elected. And he’s done everything he can to make that reality. Just because someone is sincere in what they’re saying doesn’t mean they don’t suck ass or that their words come from a sudden awakening or some kind of growth. Hell, she might have leaned left the whole time and just went right in public to get a long term seat in an easily winnable district as long as she’s red and bonkers. With people like that you can’t trust ANYTHING they say, ever. And if they suddenly change course, it’s even more suspicious.

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        I too think she’s sincere… With people like that you can’t trust ANYTHING they say, ever. And if they suddenly change course, it’s even more suspicious.

        🤨

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      Someone who looked at Trump’s words and actions for years and cheered for almost all of them does not have the capacity to say or do anything selfless, such as in this case she expects us to believe she really cares about the damage he’s doing to… Literally everything. She has us shown repeatedly she does not care, and she’s been shown to prioritize her bigotry over literally every other concern. Where have you been if you can think she’s even capable of sincerity?