• stink@lemmygrad.ml
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        I would be wary about the troop shortage claim. I suspect they’re only saying this to force the ultra orthodox into being conscripted

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          Are there… like… millions of ultra orthodox folks? 'Cause if there ain’t, all you’re doing is poisoning the units that are going to be saddled with people who absolutely don’t want to be there and have already fought against the conscription publicly.

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            I don’t know anything about these people in Israel but from what I’ve seen about these communities in the US holy fuck would I not want to serve with them. Extremely annoying people

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            ultra-orthodox are something like 15% of israelis/20% of jewish israelis, so about a million and change people. idk what that would translate to in terms of israeli draft/reserve policy but it’s not nothing. my understanding is that it’s not just about putting more people in uniform, it’s also about getting a sizable chunk of people who directly benefit from israeli apartheid and ethnonationalism to put their money where their mouth is.

            imagine you’re an average, genocidal israeli that does two years of military service bulldozing palestinian houses while hoping not to eat an al ghoul round. during your military term, you’re watching the israeli economy crumble and meanwhile you see a bunch of even more genocidal haredi israelis not only getting a pass for military duties but also getting a free ride to study the torah instead of getting real jobs. they’re a bunch of fascist welfare leeches.

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              ultra-orthodox are something like 15% of israelis/20% of jewish israelis,

              the-more-you-know

              imagine you’re an average, genocidal israeli that does two years of military service bulldozing palestinian houses while hoping not to eat an al ghoul round. during your military term, you’re watching the israeli economy crumble and meanwhile you see a bunch of even more genocidal haredi israelis not only getting a pass for military duties but also getting a free ride to study the torah instead of getting real jobs. they’re a bunch of fascist welfare leeches.

              That makes sense for people outside of the military or at a military desk job, sending people to the front lines who don’t want to be there seems more of a liability (unless its just going to be a whole companies of the ultra-orthodox being driven into Hamas ambushes by the non-ultra-orthodox.)