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    So no more states rights? Where’s all the Republican objectors? Smaller government? 2nd Amendment?

    Nothing cause they’v always been fucking cheaters and hypocrites in addition to pedophiles and rapists.

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      He’s saying to take over elections in 15 states specifically, so Republican states will be left alone, sounds good to them…

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    “Republicans ought to nationalize the voting,” Trump told former deputy FBI director and conservative commentator Dan Bongino on his radio show on Monday. “We have states that I won that show I didn’t win. …"

    This shows how he thinks. He has no evidence he won, and cannot have evidence because he didn’t win. But a mind like Trump’s makes no distinction between what he wants the truth to be and what is the truth. There’s no room at all for the notion of being wrong, or the idea that you might need to find out the truth. If it would serve you for something to be true, then it is true. This is a deeply broken mind.

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    There are still many unanswered questions about the Georgia raid, such as why a criminal investigation has been opened into an election that took place six years ago and was audited three times

    Someone’s buttfrustrated

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    President Trump called on Republicans “to take over the voting in at least 15 places” in advance of the next election

    Yeah, that can’t happen. We’re going to have to stop them. Volunteer to be a poll worker, especially if you happen to live in any of these “15 places.” This article doesn’t say specifically which places these are, but I think it’s safe to assume they are important swing districts.

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      They won’t need to do anything but put ICE outside the polls in non white neighborhoods. They will do this anywhere they can to intimidate voters. Enough people will not go vote just because of their presence there.

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        They won’t need to do anything but put ICE outside the polls

        Then we show up and put ourselves between the polls and ICE.

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          I don’t disagree. I like that spirit. I’m just telling you the reality that unless ICE (or “election integrity enforcement” or whatever they end up calling it) is not present AT ALL than there will be significantly less voter turnout.

          They will also use any organized resistance as a reason to “recount” the votes in that area.

          I’m not saying this to be a Doomer. I’m saying this so people prepare. There is no scenario in which the upcoming election is free and fair. We need to be preparing state and local level resistance. A unified and state armed multi state coalition. If the blue state politicians don’t move on this. Well, we need to start considering that our state governments are not taking the threat seriously and accept what needs to be done to form a real resistance. ICE will not leave because we brought signs. Alex Pretti had the right idea. But we need the organization of an actual state government to do that.

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            A unified and state armed multi state coalition.

            That’s what they want. The fascists want us to give them a reason to escalate, because escalation will ensure that people stay away from the polls. We need to be organized, we need to be unified and we need to form a real resistance, but we also need to be smart, and that means NOT giving the fascists exactly what they’re hoping for.

            ICE will not leave because we brought signs.

            Signs don’t threaten them, that’s true, and that’s exactly the point. They want us to threaten them, because then they can escalate. We need to be smart. That doesn’t mean we need to be ineffectual or passive, it means we need to be very careful about how we proceed.

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              You are falling for political talking points by weak politicians that do not want to stand up for the people they represent that are being killed and kidnapped. I need you to understand something important. Fascist DO NOT need an EXCUSE to escalate. How do you think we got to SS troops going door to door asking for papers? Was it because of all the escalating excuses we gave them?

              Please, we need people like you to not fall for Democrat politicians that are just trying to save themselves.

              You also offered no alternative. Your advice to be “careful” is not advice. If you actually had a proposal I’d be interested in discussing that. But you are essentially arguing for doing nothing as the fascist continue to escalate in the face of nothing being done.

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                But you are essentially arguing for doing nothing

                No, that’s not true. I am arguing that we must be smart about what we do. Nonviolence is not the same as doing nothing.

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              Have you not been paying any attention?

              THEY FUCKING ESCALATE WITHOUT AN EXCUSE ALL THE TIME.

              Where is this bullshit “oh guys let’s not agitate them it might make it worse”

              THERE’S NOT MUCH WORSE THAN LOSING FREE ELECTIONS

              ESCALATE. FIGHT. FUCK THEM.

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                No. That’s exactly what they want. They want us to give them a reason to escalate. If they escalate anyway, then they expose themselves as the violent fascists that they are. That’s important. Public perception does matter.

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                  They’ve already exposed themselves. What are you waiting for? What is your line? When they come for you? Offer an alternative that isn’t just “wait until things are REALLY REALLY BAD and then that will be our opportunity to point at that; and pointing at that fascist state will somehow defeat it.”

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      Absolutely agree - many states also pay their poll workers for their time and efforts, I am in a swing state and have served multiple elections since 2020 and yes the shift is a long one but it is very rewarding.

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      There is no legal justification for the Federal Gov’t to take over elections in the US, as that is the purview of the State’s, according to the constitution, if I’m not mistaken.

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          And that only matters if it is enforced.

          So my understanding of the creation of the US constitution was most of the framers were the oligarchs of their day. Rich, businessmen, landowners, brewers and so on.

          They, their money and power, was directly affected by the British attempts to tax them. So they came up with a social contract (albeit a broken one, riddled with contradictions and errors (all men, ahem, not black, are, apparently, created equal)) in order to convince a whole lotta people to put their lives on the line to fight for their money freedom.

          The people who should be leading the US into grinding general strikes, the democrat party, and its money men (entertainers, Hollywood and a host of corporations) have yet to have their money affected by Trump and his oligarchs/fascists.

          Until they are you are on your own

          Which is why a grass root movement needs to start pushing for a general strike, a national, union for the people, not based on employment that supports and funds front line protesters and people in critical jobs, to strike without losing their homes and families.

          There is a wealth of funds, hell a single multi millioniare could be setting up food and support for large scale protests. A dozen multi millioniares in the 100m range could be funding a huge social moment. Yet their fucking cowards.

          Until their doors are kicked in they won’t give a shit. Which is why I’ve stopped watching US anti Trump shows like Colbert, Seth and Stewart.

          They made millions and millions of dollars warning us about trump, speaking truth to what mainstream politicians refused to say let alone do something about. Yet they won’t speak truth that justice, freedom and equality are no longer universal anymore. The social contract is being ripped up.

          Which is why you can’t leave it up to anyone who claimed to be a leader.

          Start organising. Start meeting with your neighbours, community and start finding like minded people

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      Which of course doesn’t matter, as far as they’re concerned. Laws here are only for the poor and powerless now.

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      Voting isn’t about winning. They’re going to fuck with it. It’s about forcing their hand. There are still a lot of people who will turn on them if they prominently destroy free elections. We need to create a situation that can’t be denied, particularly by the military brass, that they’re breaking their oath of office. It’s already obvious, but it isn’t coup levels of obvious.

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          Oh no, a post title.

          If they were canceling elections why haven’t they started yet?

          Republicans now have a one vote margin in the House thanks to Democrats winning regular and special elections over the last year.

          Democrats have flipped 20% of Republican seats, Republicans have flipped none.

          We’ve been seeing an unprecedented slide to the left in elections over and over in 2025, including one in Texas over the weekend that went D+14 and just two years ago was a solid Trump district at R+17. That’s a 31 point shift to the left. In Texas.

          There have been dozens of shifts of that magnitude.

          Not to mention the several Democratic governors and AGs that have been elected - and those are the ones who challenge the administration in court (and have been winning most of those challenges by the way).

          Elections have consequences, and they know that too. If they were going to mess with them they would and should have done so already.

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            If they were canceling elections why haven’t they started yet?

            If they want to build concentration camps, why haven’t they started yet?

            if they want to deport law-abiding citizens, why haven’t they started yet?

            if they want to create their own masked thug army, why haven’t they started yet?

            Anyone who’s been paying attention should KNOW that “hasn’t happened yet” does NOT necessarily mean that they won’t do something.

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              We’re talking about elections, which decide who is on power to decide whether those other things you brought up are allowed to happen.

              If you want to give up your agency, roll over and show your belly, and comply in advance, then fine. Don’t vote. I will be both voting and working the polls in November.

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                We’re talking about elections, which decide who is on power to decide whether those other things you brought up are allowed to happen.

                Which is why it’s important not to rest on “they haven’t started yet”

                If you want to give up your agency, roll over and show your belly, and comply in advance, then fine.

                That’s the OPPOSITE of what I’m advocating.

                Don’t vote

                Fuck that. I’ve never missed a vote since I first became old enough 25 years ago and I’m not planning on starting now.

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            You don’t believe he will fuck with the elections, even after saying it, and all the other shit he’s done?

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              Of course they will. It’s called voter suppression, and it’s been happening in this country since we’ve been a country. Welcome to America.

              Grow up and take charge of your future. No one’s coming to save you but yourself.

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                Grow up and take charge of your future. No one’s coming to save you but yourself.

                If I were american, I’d probably be dead by now…

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      They’re likely right.

      Midterms are going to hit the Republicans hard, they barely have a majority as it stands.

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        Midterms are going to hit the Republicans hard

        Only if the take over isn’t a take over. Why else would he do it?

        How many peoples lives will it take? How many red flags is needed?