• sepi@piefed.social
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    1 month ago

    What the above poster meant was that Hitler was horrifying, and Bibi is worse still.

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      1 month ago

      Hitler killed like 8 million people. Israel’s killed less than 100k. If they killed every single person in Palestine they’d still have less than 1/4th of hitlers number. What you’re saying is nonsense.

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        Bibi’s just getting started. He has nukes, for fuck’s sake.

        Not that evil is quantified by number if bodies dropped. Don’t be a child. Shiro ishi was more evil than Mao Zedong.

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          Bibi’s just getting started.

          I doubt it. The whole world is getting sick of this, Israel is running out of friends fast. Even if the international community allows him to finish the job in Palestine (and I really hope they don’t) they’re not going to let him start annexing and genociding his other neighbors.

          Not that evil is quantified by number if bodies dropped.

          I don’t understand your argument. You’re not comparing him to ishii or mengele, you’re comparing him to Hitler. What has netanyahu done that Hitler didn’t also do on a larger scale? Do you just not like his face? I think you’re either underestimating or intentionally downplaying hitlers myriad atrocities.

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              But Hitler also threw people in ghettos, harassed them with secret police, stole their property, starved them, etc, at a larger scale than netanyahu has. I’m struggling to think of something he’s done that Hitler didn’t also do.

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                Well i think initial plan for jews of hitler was to deport them to madagascar, where they could have a state. As for netanyahu he used to posture that yes he would allow palestinians some form of a state, but likely there was never such idea in his plans for future.

                As for the scale, can we get some numbers here? I thibk that the jewish population of germany was lower in proportion than that of the palestinians in the occupied palestine.

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                  There were roughly 2 million people in Palestine at the beginning of hostilities. According to MSM reporting, Israel has killed between 60-80k so far.

                  It’s well established that Hitler killed about 6 million Jews and roughly 2 million “others” (gay/disabled/Slavic, etc). It doesn’t matter how many Jews were in Germany because he didn’t stop at Germany’s boarders, most of them were killed in the east. The worst concentration camps were in Poland.

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                    Yeah no. While the jews figure is commonly cited the 2mill other is from where? Especially slavs??

                    if we are outside of germany also well then the proportion is even lower, so whats your point? And the complete tolls were not even the argument, thats as i said a strawman you picked. Obviously the numbers of total deaths were higher in ww2.

                    But again the proportions tell a different story.

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                The worst thing Hitler did, long term, the thing he did the most civilizational damage with, was a sentence in a book about how/why one should read books. It’s done more than 8m bodies of damage since.

                Likewise, netenyahu’s worst crimes aren’t his atrocious war crimes–its the mechanisms and networks and ideologies to excuse them built into governments and assets the world over. It’s what his regime represents to the powerful, and why they will fight for it.

                And I’m not minimizing the horrors done to Palestinians or the marginalized peoples of Europe.

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                  The worst thing Hitler did, long term, the thing he did the most civilizational damage with, was a sentence in a book about how/why one should read books. It’s done more than 8m bodies of damage since.

                  Help me out, I’m not getting this reference.

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                    He said to read to confirm your biases no matter how much you have to cherry pick and ignore everything else–to be someone who can’t have new ideas communicated to them, only their existing opinions confirmed.

                    Recognize this from anywhere everywhere?

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        Both of the numbers are absurdly wrong, i mean incorrect. And the comparison is obviously not based on death toll. Thats a strawman you picked. Your entire comment is just absurd.

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            Genius the number is much higher, Hitler killed a WHOLE lot more people. So did israhell and its genocidal war in the region since 1948.