Hmm this really does seem like the opening salvo in a MAJOR escalation that goes beyond mere words or pandering to the base and sets the groundwork for uh not great things.
The Trump administration isn’t only targeting organizations or groups but even individuals and “entities” whom NSPM-7 says can be identified by any of the following “indica” (indicators) of violence:
anti-Americanism,
anti-capitalism,
anti-Christianity,
support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
extremism on migration,
extremism on race,
extremism on gender
hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality.
Breaking this down a bit:
extremism on migration,
Clearly to go after anyone against deportations, ICE, etc. Even someone just working the policy and judicial angle as say a lawyer who never attends protests would be a dangerous indicator of terrorism under this.
extremism on race,
I have to wonder for some of these if it’s entirely up to the discretion of the cops doing the work or if there’s additional (secret) guidance defining these because on the surface this would certainly seem to suggest support for BLM or anything they deem “anti-white”
extremism on gender
As with above I have to wonder if there’s additional secret guidance on the meaning of this one. Obviously trans rights activists (including any trans person who isn’t constantly denouncing their own existence I presume) would fall under this as would any feminists who are for abortion, are against the traditional 1950s Christian Protestant views on family, etc, etc.
The last three in the list are especially broad, vague, and therefore worrying but seem to reinforce the above and remove doubts about what extremism on race and gender are.
I have to wonder for some of these if it’s entirely up to the discretion of the cops doing the work or if there’s additional (secret) guidance defining these
I do not know how I keep falling into these freaking discussions completely unaware everyone is just trying to make cheap Western Country bad points while our country’s burn as we try to save them.
If you blame everybody that lives in a country for that country,
Of course not. The above commenter was rightfully blaming the genocidal governments of the US as well as their supporters for enabling them
you are unenlightened.
Really, you are enlightened? Are you Maitreya, the Buddha of the future, the only enlightened being left on the planet here to save us from checks notes being against genocide?
Your definition of tankies has expanded to include anarchists and other leftists who support actually existing socialism. It’s a cheap buzzword, common amongst shitlibs.
I do not know how I keep falling into these freaking discussions completely unaware everyone is just trying to make cheap Western Country bad points
Because you don’t know how to look at the instance you’re in? cheap “Western Country Bad” is hilarious coming from a western chauvinist.
our country’s burn
Less capitalist nations the better! Maybe…maybe they’re burning because of the economic system they practice…? I dunno…might be a cheap “western country bad” point…
There never is. There is objectively better governments, though. China has a higher protein rate consumption per capita, lower homelessness, higher home-ownership rate and generally a higher standard of life and approval rating for their government. From what I seen of local governance, generally more democratic under a “one-party system” than electing which real-estate crony is going to run your small town next cycle.
Vietnam, USSR, plenty of socialist examples. You are on a socialist instance, sucker.
Make no mistake, anyone showing loyalty to country and her peoples are terrorists to this traitorous regime and their craven underlings.
Fascists tend to infight and tear themselves apart. This time it’s going to be between different factions of the ruling class; blue or red doesn’t matter only ideological principles which tends to be a stark divide between the dying neoliberalism and fundamentalists/new-right that is emerging. In Nazi Germany, plenty of people who were “Loyal” yet not fascist were still supporting an evil entity. The same could be said for America.
the general population might need some time to catch up.
That would be the day we see America as it is currently is no longer exists.
Hmm this really does seem like the opening salvo in a MAJOR escalation that goes beyond mere words or pandering to the base and sets the groundwork for uh not great things.
Breaking this down a bit:
Clearly to go after anyone against deportations, ICE, etc. Even someone just working the policy and judicial angle as say a lawyer who never attends protests would be a dangerous indicator of terrorism under this.
I have to wonder for some of these if it’s entirely up to the discretion of the cops doing the work or if there’s additional (secret) guidance defining these because on the surface this would certainly seem to suggest support for BLM or anything they deem “anti-white”
As with above I have to wonder if there’s additional secret guidance on the meaning of this one. Obviously trans rights activists (including any trans person who isn’t constantly denouncing their own existence I presume) would fall under this as would any feminists who are for abortion, are against the traditional 1950s Christian Protestant views on family, etc, etc.
The last three in the list are especially broad, vague, and therefore worrying but seem to reinforce the above and remove doubts about what extremism on race and gender are.
Come on now, you know cops are following
Make no mistake, anyone showing loyalty to country and her peoples are terrorists to this traitorous regime and their craven underlings.
They are actively betraying america, and we all know it. We all being we in reality here, the general population might need some time to catch up.
The US are not the good guys.
No shit? Show me the good guys in government, and I will show you an exciting investment opportunity sucker.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say but I’m saying that saying someone is betraying America is not a condemnation.
Is this entire instance tankies? Hexbear?
I do not know how I keep falling into these freaking discussions completely unaware everyone is just trying to make cheap Western Country bad points while our country’s burn as we try to save them.
hey I found something for you to ignore and not read so you can hide in your little dream world
https://redsails.org/tankies/
Tankie is nothing more then the liberal version of woke.
and woke is just pinko, commie, etc
Hexbear is for leftists. Sure, here’s another cheap point for ya: if you love America, you’re fucking disgusting.
If you blame everybody that lives in a country for that country, you are unenlightened.
Of course not. The above commenter was rightfully blaming the genocidal governments of the US as well as their supporters for enabling them
Really, you are enlightened? Are you Maitreya, the Buddha of the future, the only enlightened being left on the planet here to save us from checks notes being against genocide?
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans
Fuck Israel and obliterate that entire entity. I remember the megathread cheering on the Iranian missiles!
Point to where I did that.
Your definition of tankies has expanded to include anarchists and other leftists who support actually existing socialism. It’s a cheap buzzword, common amongst shitlibs.
Because you don’t know how to look at the instance you’re in? cheap “Western Country Bad” is hilarious coming from a western chauvinist.
Less capitalist nations the better! Maybe…maybe they’re burning because of the economic system they practice…? I dunno…might be a cheap “western country bad” point…
Liberals please learn what words mean before using them, I’m begging you
There never is. There is objectively better governments, though. China has a higher protein rate consumption per capita, lower homelessness, higher home-ownership rate and generally a higher standard of life and approval rating for their government. From what I seen of local governance, generally more democratic under a “one-party system” than electing which real-estate crony is going to run your small town next cycle.
Vietnam, USSR, plenty of socialist examples. You are on a socialist instance, sucker.
Fascists tend to infight and tear themselves apart. This time it’s going to be between different factions of the ruling class; blue or red doesn’t matter only ideological principles which tends to be a stark divide between the dying neoliberalism and fundamentalists/new-right that is emerging. In Nazi Germany, plenty of people who were “Loyal” yet not fascist were still supporting an evil entity. The same could be said for America.
That would be the day we see America as it is currently is no longer exists.