Reminder: if habeas corpus is suspended for ANYBODY, it’s suspended for EVERYBODY at the whim of Trump, ICE, feds, cops etc etc because all they have to do is falsely claim you’re a migrant and you can be detained for ever, and the courts cannot intervene AT ALL, because you have been declared a migrant and you and every lawyer in the land have lost the right to have your case heard in court.
Americans, WAKE UP.
THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU.No she said that trump had a presidential RIGHT that is protected by the constitution that says he can do this.
Noam is so horrible that if she said she was, “spending her weekend with the kids”, I would assume her family wasn’t involved and she was going to inspect a detention facility.
I’d assume she’s perusing Petfinder looking for a dog to shoot in the face for behaving like a dog. Bonus points for any breed that’s common overseas. No migrant people and no migrant dogs. No more of these DEI shelters housing Akitas and Vizslas.
Puppy. Not dog. She likes shooting puppies.
I like to think that with her sociopathic tendencies she graduated to adult dogs; That she adheres to the notion that you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. She takes it even more of a personal slight when disobeyed by a six year old Bernese Mountain Dog than a four month old Wheaten Terrier.
She did not botch the definition, she maliciously redefined it per her extremist, dog-killing views hoping the majority of Americans will accept it as the new definition.
The definition provided was the practical implementation. Precedent shows that Habeas Corpus is suspended at the discretion of the president.
Sen. Maggie Hassan fucked up by reminding Trump that eventually Lincoln went back to Congress to request the suspension.
“I’ll pass this by Congress next year”.
I knew she was going to invoke Lincoln’s name, they like to do that every chance they get, as if Lincoln wouldn’t be HORRIFIED by them claiming him as one of theirs.
Lincoln suspended Habeus Corpus because he was in a highly unusual situation, and even so, he was very uncomfortable ordering it. DC was the capital of the Union, and Richmond was the capital of the Confederacy, and both cities were extremely close to each other. The streets of DC, and the surrounding states of Virginia (Confederate), and Maryland (Union), were filled with Confederate operatives and spies, attempting to interfere with military operations, and even plotting to assassinate the President.
The Constitution allows for the suspension of Habeus Corpus in:
Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution, which specifies a suspension of the writ “when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.”
Lincoln was faced with an actual rebellion, America is not facing a “rebellion or invasion” of any kind, no matter how much HitlerPig wants to characterize the issue of undocumented immigrants.
Why does everyone seem to think she got it wrong? This is what they want it to mean. And we should all know by now, that when they start stoking these little thoughts into their base, it becomes a reality for them.
Still, she is stupid as fuck though, and a soulless ghoul. Just don’t mistake this “definition” for stupidity.
Hanlon’s Razor States:
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Usually it’s a good rule of thumb, but in the case of MAGA Nazi’s, the opposite is OFTEN likely to apply. Stupidity does apply most of the time, but malice is also a very common component in nearly every issue. I’ve never seen people who are so enthusiastically, gleefully cruel.
Yeah, normally I’d just say how stupid they are, but this is a time where they are both stupid AND trying to make their base think that’s what the definition ACTUALLY is. You shall soon see MAGAts walking around saying that the definition is what she said.
Oh, yeah, they don’t care what reality is, or what hundreds of years of legal precedent say, the unassailable truth is whatever their treasonous leaders claim it is.
Norm is not a smart or serious person
It’s not that, it’s that they don’t care if they lie.
She knows what it means, she just said what Trump wants her to say. If he wanted to say the sky is green and the grass is blue, that’s what she’d say.
It’s 100% serious and thinking she legitimately doesn’t know what habeus corpus means is just falling for their bullshit.
Don’t just write them off as incompetent idiots, they’re doing a shit ton of damage and just pretending it’s due to incompetence
Yeah, that’s why these people seems to roleplayng all the time.
They got a too down structure, they do not represent people who voted them but only their agenda, their king.
This is not politics, this is a coup in action.
They got a top down structure
Up to a few months ago both parties had for decades…
It’s not new, but at least we finally got a DNC chair who understands you can’t build a pyramid upside down.
The base is the important part, and Martin has a long history of giving the base what they want, because he sees running a party as working for the base.
Like, it’s felt like bizzaro world defending the DNC the last couple months, but most people seem completely unaware of the huge accomplishment we just made.
Even with trump in office on a decade plus timeline this is the most optimistic I’ve ever been about America’s political future.
This is the closest we’ve been to getting an FDR style president since JFK. People forget the DNC faced a rebellion over Carter because the Dem voting base of the time considered Jimmy fucking Carter too rightwing.
The Dem party has been off the path for 50 years, and we just took the first step back on it.
I like the way you look at things
Disclaimer:
The only ethical way to be an optimist is to have a backup plan for worst case scenario.
An FDR style president out of the 2028 election is predicated on there being an election in 2028.
Hanlon’s razer went out the wazoo a long time ago. You absolutely need to always assume malice now.
Hanlon’s razer went out the wazoo a long time ago
When she testified to Congress and just flat out ignored questions about the ms13 “tattoo”. Wouldn’t say it was clearly fake. But also wouldn’t say that it was real, she’d just ramble about something else.
What they say doesn’t matter, what they do does.
The truly horrifying thing is all of these people are fucking idiots. Trump, Noem, Hegseth, Navarro, Musk, Bondi, etc. etc.
And I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing. Because despite how dumb they are, they continue to march on their merry way doing whatever the fuck they want.
Stupid is evil.
Id say it’s good since it means they are probably too stupid to shore up against the effects they’ve caused. For example I suspect that the reason that ICE is pissing about small towns and being useless assholes is because their back end shit also has that stupid 1$ limit on their credit cards, with the reason being that the Trump admin is either too fractured and/or stupid to realize why that may just be a problem for them.
Typical republican traitor moron.
You said traitor twice.
They also said moron twice.
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Haven’t they been suspending habeas corpus this whole time? I thought that was the main reason behind the SCOTUS case, that they’re mass deporting people with zero due process?
Habeas corpus doesn’t prevent illegal imprisonment, it’s only a procedure to (eventually) free people after the fact. That procedure is still in place, it just takes a lot of time. Habeas corpus was used successfully to free Rümeysa Öztürk (detained for writing an op-ed). But many others are still detained because the process is slow and the DOJ is deliberately obstructing everything.
But they’re imprisoning people in a foreign country where we have no jurisdiction, right? How is it possible to eventually have a court hearing for those people?
You’re right of course. Habeas corpus alone isn’t enough to stop all of this, particularly against an administration that is blatantly undermining the courts.
The whole thing makes me sick to my stomach. The lack of mass mobilization to the streets while they’re essentially black bagging human beings and making them disappear is insane. The protests in my metro have been pitiful.
Then someone should ask her what’s to stop Trump from deporting her
If your tongue is far enough up his ass I heard you’re still ok.
