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  • I haven’t seen anything like the current actions before in Israel. Previous to the Oct attack response, the only significant calls for genocide in the area came from Muslims. Israel treated people in Gaza terribly, and illegally kept expanding their settlements. But it was nothing like any conventional use of the word ‘genocide’ would be. Things changes throughout '24, but it was a slow transition and with all the lies on both sides, it wasn’t clear until the end of December how much Isreal had gone off the deep end. And then trump came into power and encouraged them and it got significantly worse. So I’m not sure where your ‘years of excuses’ comes from because it doesn’t fit the actual timeline.





  • Wrong. I never would justify genocide. I agree 100% that Isreal has escalated this way beyond anything that could be justified as self defense. And they are 100% responsible for their actions. That doesn’t change the fact that Hamas triggered it and gave them cover to start by committing the Oct attacks, which, while pale in comparison to Israel’s subsequent violence against the people of Gaza, were also reprehensible.
    More important to this discussion is the timeline. When Biden was in a position to support Israel, Israel was nominally still targeting Hamas resources, albeit with not enough care about civilian casualties. Hamas was still firing many rockets daily at Israel which was using very expensive defense tech to mostly thwart. Once Biden was a lame duck, and trump signaled encouragement for Isreal to go full genocidal, things got a lot worse. We don’t know what Harris would have done, or how Isreal would have responded to a democrat win, but it simply couldn’t have been worse than trump. And probably considerably less terrible.




  • I do, mostly because he’s so random, self centered and easily manipulated. Biden was still stuck in the ‘Isreal has a right to defend itself’ mode, which was true; but I do believe Biden or Harris would have pushed back significantly more than trump did when Israel kept escalating. Trump’s team never pushed back at all; trump openly fantasized about clearing out Gaza and putting up trump casinos ffs.
    And yes, Hamas brought all that shit down on the people of Gaza. Yes Israel took advantage of it and went way overboard, and maybe they would have found some other excuse to do it anyway. But Hamas started this escalation.