An Israeli reserve soldier who took part in the genocide in Gaza committed suicide on Tuesday in his apartment in the central Israeli city of Rehovot, on the very day of his wedding, according to the Hebrew daily Maariv.

The paper reported that the 31-year-old soldier was scheduled to be married that evening but was found dead in his home after taking his own life. Ambulance crews arriving at the scene pronounced him dead, and police said circumstances remain under investigation.

The incident adds to what Israeli media have described as an alarming rise in suicides among army personnel, especially reservists, since October 2023, when Israel launched its genocidal war on Gaza.

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    I wonder, do Israeli schools teach about the Holocaust? And then once they graduate they join the IDF and end up committing those same crimes to their own neighbors?

    That’s really got to fuck with the heads of these kids. This sick Zionist culture doesn’t have a chance playing these head games with their own children.

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    You know how the pro-zionists keep saying “free Gaza from Hamas”? I say “free Israelis from having to be enforcers of apartheid and genocide”. Freeing Palestine is also freeing Israelis from this miserable way of life they’ve chosen for themselves.

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    Yeah turns out that no matter how hard you try to Other the Enemy, comitting war crimes will still fuck you up.

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      A problem is, that those people are the best allies we can have, we need them talking and organising against apartheid.

      that being said, nothing they can do will make up for the horrors they caused.

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        No every genocidal colonizer should kill themselves. They all damage themselves in the process, it is not right to simply feel sorry for them. They should take out 10 others first if they really believe what they do is wrong.

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          I’m not feeling sorry for them.

          just that I’m all that hell, when it comes to ending apartheid, those people are better alive than dead.

          which is a contrast to the rest of the IDF,

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            They are, objectively, useless for ending apartheid. They just offed themselves rather than do anything material against it. And if they chose to not do so, they are hardly great allies. They are not on the front linea disrupting the genocide, that is left to teenagers and certain kinds of Orthodox tendencies.

            But this is all really missing the point. Placing so much priority and focus on rehabilitating what are basically Nazi SS members is basically just white supremacy and sympathy for fascists. They are in no way the allies of the oppressed, they are literally the opprrssors. If you want allies, look yo those who actually materially oppose the grnocide.

            You better be out there fucking defending Hamas, who are infinitely more proactive in the liberation of Palestine, guilty of far fewer crimes, and continue to be the government of Gaza, such as it is. Any single Hamas member is more valuable and sympathetic than any Zionist entity child starver.

            Can you do that or does it make you uncomfortable? If so, why more discomfort for that than for the Nazi?

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              I’m just saying that the psychotic IDF soldiers are not having any regrets. and it’s feels stupid to demonise the few that do.

              they need to talk and write books and go on tours scaring the shit of every 17year old in Israel so they choose jail to genocide.

              the stories of the things they did, there’s was one who committed suicide because he couldn’t stop hearing the screams is people he run over with their tractor. he definitely deserves to die, but if he has any regrets, he should speak out. become a anti-apartheid and antigenocide voice.

              maybe I’m taking it personally because I grew up in a zionist house and I was brainwashed enough that I wanted to join the IDF. when i lived in Israel and saw apartheid with my own eyes I changed my mind, I deprogrammed myself and now I’m doing BDS and marching nearly every week. people can be deprogrammed and they must tell their stories to the world.

              and from a practical point of view, having hoards of ex IDF campaigning against zionism would be a powerful push to end Zionism.

              they are going to claim their own soldiers are anti-semites? that IDF are Hamas?

              just saying that suicide isn’t enough for them, they have work to do

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                I’m just saying that the psychotic IDF soldiers are not having any regrets. and it’s feels stupid to demonise the few that do.

                They still did demonic things and have done nothing worth absolution. It feels smart and good, to me, to correctly label things and not sympathize with genocidal colonists, particularly when there are people who actually fight against the genocidal colonists and who do not regularly receive support, but instead, exactly, demonization.

                Western chauvinists and navel-gazers have been placing their hopes in “Israeli” groups opposing the Zionist project since the 1920s and 1930s. They even convinced many Palestinians to not take up arms and to instead put trust in “labor Zionists” who went on to become death squads leading up to and during the Nakba.

                they need to talk and write books and go on tours scaring the shit of every 17year old in Israel so they choose jail to genocide.

                They need to be bullied and kill themselves, hopefully taking out others like them in the process. Book deals and tours for child murderers? This is what Palestinian liberation needs? Listen to yourself.

                “Israel” needs to collapse under its own conflicting societal forces that are constantly being mollified by endless material Western support. Some IDF war criminals that feel bad about themselves would at most be another very small brick in building those conflicts, but really would more likely end up reinforcing Zionism by drawing attention to the myth of good settlers rather than the need for the project itself to be undone.

                the stories of the things they did, there’s was one who committed suicide because he couldn’t stop hearing the screams is people he run over with their tractor. he definitely deserves to die, but if he has any regrets, he should speak out. become a anti-apartheid and antigenocide voice.

                I’m glad he’s dead. Him “speaking out” is not a priority.

                maybe I’m taking it personally because I grew up in a zionist house and I was brainwashed enough that I wanted to join the IDF. when i lived in Israel and saw apartheid with my own eyes I changed my mind, I deprogrammed myself and now I’m doing BDS and marching nearly every week. people can be deprogrammed and they must tell their stories to the world.

                I am unsurprised. This kind of prioritization of the oppressor’s feelings tends to be centered in those who see identity with them. The white South African immigrants that sympathize with Boers. The white Westerners sympathizing with French oppressors in Algiers. Sympathy for Zionist fascists can come from many forms of self-identity. Most often it is white Christians that see commonality in race and, similarly, islamophobia. But of course Jewish people are constantly targets of Zionist propaganda and, when such a person comes to the amazing realization that genocide and displacement is bad even when Jewish people do it, tend to join milquetoast efforts that elevate their own identity as “the good ones” and still fail to, for example, justify the Palestinian resistance and do direct action against the genocidal war machine. Groups like, say, JVP actually moderate the “discourse”, such as it is, and leverage liberal tokenization logic regarding identity to take up inordinate space without doing what should really be their primary work: building antizionist Judaism and identity, to be coherent and proud rather than “conflicted”.

                I have gone on and on about this because it has echoes in all liberal oppressor sympathies and tendencies to be “the good ones” and then falls flat precisely because it is, unfortunately, still quite self-centered and itself, in the process, displacing the humanity and validity of the oppressed. It is incrementally an improvement for some liberal Zionists to learn that Judaism and Zionism are not synonymous, sure, but they still condemn Hamas and justify Biden’s genocide and generally continue their racist support for mass death and displacement so long as it kerps the right aesthetics. They are not challenged by any of this and are not brought into any organized resistance.

                You can self-soothe privately any way you’d like, but genocidal colonizers should die and not be elevated to receive positive attention, particularly when there is a need to elevate the causes of the oppressed, the humanity of the oppressed (not the “humanity” of the oppressor that feels bad!), the righteousness of their resistance.

                and from a practical point of view, having hoards of ex IDF campaigning against zionism would be a powerful push to end Zionism.

                No it wouldn’t. It would be used to deny the genocide, say there are “good ones”, and make this all more tolerable for the people who could actually end support for the settler colony. And it is absolutely fantastical and deeply unserious to think traumatized IDF war criminals would form any kind of substantial antizionist movement. They would be a “slow the genocide down and be more polite about it and stop traumatizing tge young people of our superior race by having them see the effects of their war crimes” movement at best.

                “Israelis” need to have their psychological bubble popped. To not think of “Israel” as a safe place for their master race, for them to dominate the surrounding “lessers” who they call terrorists. They will leave in droves if they cannot sustain their sense of superiority and apartheid, same as every failed settler colony in history. We already see how flighty “Israelis” are, how they are suddenly European or American when they can’t bomb children with impunity, flying off to Cyprus etc until things “calm down”. Once they prefer not to return to their stolen homes you will see a change.

                they are going to claim their own soldiers are anti-semites? that IDF are Hamas?

                Yeah duh. This already happens.

                just saying that suicide isn’t enough for them, they have work to do

                Yes work like killing their CO first.

                PS you never answered my question about Hamas. You better be fucking out there justifying the Palestinian resistance if you’re voicing support for “reformed” genocidal colonizers.

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                  I’ve never opposed or said anything against Palestinian resistance. it’s not only their right but without it, there wouldn’t be any Palestine left.

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              true,

              there’s also the issue (my guess), that those soldiers have massive PTSD, but refuse to blame apartheid or their own state for it.

              they are probably the best people to deprogram. and every single anti apartheid person in Israel is an asset. And there are programs for them like breaking the silence.

              Also, I am in no way forgiving them for their crimes. In fact I’m shaming them for their suicide (I was suicidal many times in my life and it’s terrible to blame people for their suicide, but for these cases, I am making an exception). They need to work on toppling apartheid from the inside.

              which btw, it’s very close. Israel is barely standing, politically it’s never been more divided internally (albeit the main factions are Genocide apartheid and Liberal genocidal apartheid), but it collapsing is the best chance for apartheid to end.

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                Franz Fanon does discuss French soldiers who switched sides and instead fought for Algerian independence after witnessing first hand the colonial violence of the French army

                Adi Callai, an anti-zionist Israeli, does discuss this in the context of the fight for Palestinian independence in his videos: The Gaza Ghetto Uprising and Franz Fanon vs Identity Politics

                I do think there is a place for it, but outside of advocacy groups like Breaking The Silence, I haven’t seen any militancy against the genocide from Israeli soldiers who have broken rank.

                Maybe the indoctrination and dehumanization is too deeply ingrained in Israeli society, its already been two years of genocide and I haven’t seen any real indication of such shift

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                  The indoctrination and propaganda are so prevalent in Israel.

                  Very few countries had half a century of pure propaganda and brandishing like Israel does. maybe North Korea.

                  I’ll watch that video later.

                  I just want the genocide and apartheid to end.

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          I don’t think that is what this person is saying. The people within the organisation that actually have remorse and disagree could be allies. They are in a position to resist if they organise.

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            That is a form of liberal Zionism to say that anything settlers do is decisive to the struggle. Anti-imperialism has always been a struggle spearheaded by the oppressed themselves not their oppressors. Not to mention that these Israelis don’t actually feel remorse. They, much like other “anti-war” settlers eg USAmerican vets against the US invasion of Vietnam, are upset that imperialism has negative side effects for them. They do not care about the colonised.

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            That is exactly what they’re saying, and it’s horseshit. If they actually had regrets and wanted to make amends they’d take as many of their Nazi buddies with them as possible.

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            It is actually what they are saying. A gestapo that feels bad is “the best ally”. Fuck off, the best ally isn’t a genocidal colonizer, it is the Palestinian resistance and those who stand with it every damn day.

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      The little guy that felt remorse is the asshole in this story, or did I misunderstand you?

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        “The little guy”

        You mean the genocidal colonizer that murdered the people his project is displacing?

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        If he had remove he would join the minority of israelis who oppose settler colonialism and genocide

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          Looking at my own history that is hard to do. Few people have the psychological strength to resist participating.

          And that is not a failing unique to them. Lots of people I know did bad things while in uniform and regretted it years later.

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            “It’s hard to not be a genocidal colonizer if you grow up that way”.

            No it isn’t. It’s just unlikely to actually happen at all because a genocidal colonizer society brings people up in that culture. It is not difficult, and is even a passive thing to do, to simply not support that effort. Even just refusing to join the IDF just nets you a few months in a cushy “prison” and slightly limits a professional networking opportunity (yes, they think that way). Compare that to the alternative, which is actively partaking in genocide colonialism.

            Sympathize with the oppressed, not the oppressors.

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                It’s not at all a straw man. They literally said, in reference to settler colonialism and genocide, “Few people have the psychological strength to resist participating.”

                Look fascist sympathy right in the eyes.

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            The thing is that i don’t believe he committed suicide because he regrated participating just like Hitler didn’t kill himself because he regrated the holocaust

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              Most people who participate in war crimes live on. The criminals become part of the problem regardless of what they would choose earlier. Sometimes this does utterly break people. But not often.

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                  Yes, and unfortunately many ordinary people can do that.

                  I live in Texas, and have been long listening to the stories of people who committed American war crimes .

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                Most people who do war crimes should die. Most people believe this so long as the war criminals aren’t white.

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    May the Euroanglo-zionazis drown in their own excrement.

    also the headline from MEM is really fucking whitewashy…

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    Well, since no one else will stop them - it’s always a little bright spot, that some of them stop themselves…

    On a more empathic note. There seem to be a lot of victims in this. This is still class warfare. The rich and powerful against everyone else, and the normal population is just cannon fodder.

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    The German army was originally being used to implement the genocide during WWII. The mental toll on the soldiers got so bad they had to create the death camps.

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      This is not what happened and has nothing to do with this article but sure, buddy, you can go lay down again and sleep it off