Try being more constructive. You begin to identify a genuine issue but you attribute it to some conspiracy that all the mods are trying to exclude leftists by making controversial rules. I think that is incorrect, they are trying their best even if their policy I wouldn’t fully agree with. It’s hard to get everyone to agree on anything, but leftists doubly so.
So, what is the moderation style that you’d want to see in a Lemmy community? Could you find or create a community on an instance like lemm.ee that might fit that better?
Just being salty about having your incendiary comment removed won’t accomplish much.
Hello,
Completely unrelated, but as I see you here, could you have a look at this thread? Looking for Canadian perspective: https://lemmy.ca/post/35100507/13832375
Yeah sure. I think the removed commentor is being extremely pedantic in their reasoning to dismiss this person as “a nobody”. It’s very nuanced:
They are correct but only in a technical sense: the part(ies) controlling the Parliament form the Government, 2nd place party (Conservatives) is the Official Opposition, the others are Recognized Parties within the legislature. However, the Liberals have been running a minority government with a plurality but not a majority of seats. And until September 2024, the NDP, which meant that Charlie Angus and the MPs in that caucus were helping keep the Liberal government intact in exchange for legislation that were in the NDP’s (more left wing) interests.
In the international sense, Parliament is our legislative branch of a government, “Government” is the executive and our court system is the judicial branch.
Let me get extremely pedantic here: is MP Angus part of the Government (aka the federal government) in official Canadian terms? No. To say MP Angus is part of the government (in an international sense, without using specific terms like federal government or Government of Canada) is perfectly acceptable, understood fine in Canada as much as elsewhere. You’ll notice the wiki page on it is very careful to differentiate the terms.
Anyway, the thread linked is not the place to school people on these technicalities, and the user’s use of this to reach the conclusion suggesting MP Angus and the NDP are nobodies is false and misleading. The distinction or stretch of logic specifically is that “not part of the government” ≠ “a nobody in the legislature” when the user themselves were implicitly conflating the two in the beginning.
Thank you!
some conspiracy that all the mods are trying to exclude leftists by making controversial rules.
not “all the mods”, and clearly no point in continuing since you’re so willfully mischaracterizing what i plainly said.
classic please pm me whatever that tactic is called where you can just avoid a good point by saying that kind of thing because id like to read up on that to use it myself
swing and a miss
i dont swing im celibate
yawn
eepy
YDI.
Okay, there’s no rule explicitly saying “don’t bring up old and divisive discussions, that are likely to derail the new discussions into off-topic”… but come on that’s a given innit?
YDI. Stop bringing the argument into the comments.
YACI
im not familiar with this acronym
you’re so boring
those are different letters thats YSB not YACI
Guess what? This is just humans. This is your normal in-group/out-group dynamics. It’s tribalism, it’s always always tribalism.
It’s not some shady group trying to undermine you, it’s that humans by and large fucking suck at this stuff and recognizing when they’re doing it. It’s why I never felt much affinity for “groups” to begin with, because they always devolve to this.
And others are right, by bringing up the drag drama, you undermine your own point.
it’s a salient example of the strategy i’m talking about. this isn’t a natural consequence of having groups.
there’s no way the mods think that a vegan who would prefer a vegan restaurant adds a couple meat items over them closing entirely “was never really a vegan” and should be banned.
and likewise, there’s no way people think that dra**** is a real pronoun that that person actually identifies as, and people discrediting that are anti-people’s gender identity.
it’s exactly the same thing.
it’s concern trolling.If somebody asks me to refer to drag that way, I’ll just do it. Why not?
If drag’s fun to be around, I might hang out, if drag sucks or is boring, I’ll move on and talk to somebody else.
I wouldn’t take multiple days out of my life to scream about how “they don’t really mean it” or how it breaks a rule my first grade teacher taught me about grammar.
