I think there is something to the idea that founding a society on murder, theft, racism, and apartheid makes for a really shitty & toxic society, by warping that society’s people into really shitty & toxic people with a profound and really quite incomparable level of arrogance & paranoia.

as you can see, Israel has degenerated to the point of being openly genocidal and daring anyone to say something about it. I suspect this isn’t a fixable or redeemable condition, certainly not on a scale of years or even decades.