Marjorie Taylor Greene explained just how much demands to release the Epstein files have increased.

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    I am all for it… but I wish people would get this passionate about healthcare, the environment, education, housing, and all the other things that are suffering in our society.

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        A pedophile ring for the 1% in which everyone knows they’re doing it and no one does anything to stop it doesn’t matter?

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          I’d argue a pedophile ring isn’t as important as stopping an environmental collapse or making sure the entire population has access to Healthcare. The irony being the 1% a responsible for all of them

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            You know we can do more than one thing, right? Like, it’s not one guy who has to go around arresting the pedophiles, fixing climate change, and establishing wealth equality. In fact, no one person is expert enough in all three to really be the person for the job!

            We can do this all at the same time. Take a breath and stop getting in the way of something that is finally starting to see results.

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              Establishing clear priorities doesn’t mean that you can only do one thing, it means that if circumstances require you to choose one thing over the other, you have a well reasoned framework to make that decision even if you really want both things.

              Also no one was saying, “we need to stop being mad about Epstein so we can focus on healthcare” they were saying “it’s a shame that people didn’t get as mad about healthcare as they did about Epstein when it’s clearly the higher priority problem”. It’s actually them advocating that we should do more than one thing, and that the fact that we’re only doing one thing is made even worse because it’s the thing that’s lower priority.

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                A lot of people are trying to deflect from the issue, even comments here, where have you been? They’re so desperate to get the world away from the topic that they’ll say just about anything. It’s very similar to the “why do we help refugees and not our own elderly people” argument that exists only to hurt foreigners and comes from the very people who get in the way of social safety net improvements all over the world.

                Right now this issue has momentum, and since they haven’t been afraid of climate change all this time then it looks like the pedo ring is their weakspot. Why attack where their armour is the strongest when they have a gaping hole in it staring us in the face?

                And as far as the topmost comment in the thread is concerned, a lot of people are that energized when it comes to the other issues. Sure it’s not MAGA folk, but expecting them to care about others is a losing game.

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                  The comment that sparked this line of discussion was:

                  “I am all for it… but I wish people would get this passionate about healthcare, the environment, education, housing, and all the other things that are suffering in our society.”

                  Not deflection, not discouraging the pursuit of this issue, just wishing for a better world where we could get this kind of traction on issues that actually materially affect most people.

                  “… expecting them to care about others is a losing game.”

                  Ignoring the fact that many of them are personally impacted by the issues mentioned, I agree, but someone taking a moment to mourn a better world that could have been is pretty normal and human, and just doesn’t seem to warrant the backlash in this thread.

                  I’m glad that the MAGAs finally found something that made them start to question if they’re being conned, and I relish seeing so many people pouring gas on that fire. But I also agree that it would have been nice if it could have been something more impactful that sparked that reaction.

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              You say that but how well does governments handle multiple problems at once? In a perfect world we could but this world is far from perfect

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                Really well? Most governments might show off one at a time but have you ever heard of a thing called a “department” and that there are several of them of them doing different things?

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            Yeah funny how those with an excess of wealth and a lack of morals seem to be behind so many terrible things in the world…

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            It doesn’t matter what your cause of choice is, someone is always going to say something else is more important. However, saying human trafficking doesn’t matter at all? That’s a pretty dickish statement.

            I agree, it would be nice if Republicans cared about more of these things, but human trafficking is also a major issue.

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              No humans to traffic if the ecosystem collapses. There is a scale of what problems are most important. I’d agrue preventing the destruction of our species is more important than any crime committed by a group of individuals. That being said you don’t just ignore all the other problems. You just prioritize one over the other

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          It doesn’t if the Kingpin of that ring is a king above the law. Literally a waste of time.

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    Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

    Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

    Here’s the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

    —————————other Epstein Information

    https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

    Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

    Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Epstein and Israel both hired lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who says he’s building ‘legal dream team’ to defend Israel in court and on internationally | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

    Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/

    Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs

    —————————other Trump information:

    Here’s trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

    Trump’s promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

    Trump’s modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

    A good summary of Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75

    • ⁠Much of this info can also be found on: https://theepsteindocs.com/

    Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it is never “lost”.

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      “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

      Did he ever promise not to rape a girl younger than her? Because that might be an important loophole.

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    So, the Epstein files may provide glimpses into even more fun things, I think. Like Pentagon and Federal Reserve and CIA stuff. Call me a nut (I am one), but I think Trump, the getting ready to die easy target, is being thrown under the bus. This list may be the juiciest thing in a century. Just my cookoo conspiracy theories.

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      I think you’re very likely correct. My money is on Mar-A-Lago acting as an actual front for international child trafficking under the guise of beauty peagants and adoption through Russian mob agencies. All of which is actually well documented already (I’m not joking.

      But a smoking gun in those files of Epstein admitting the Trump owned Miss teen USA pageants were a front for his kidde sex trafficking would be a definite game over.

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        Also, Epstein’s girls come from a legacy of Soviet child-prostitution.

        Edit: Guys. I just went and checked out r/conservative. They’re finally with us on this one. They’re either checking out or screaming about money and power as loud as we do.

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          Just give them time. There’s always a bit of a delay before they get their talking points.

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    Just one dissenting Republican vote would have swung it, Collins and Murkowski.

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      They only vote against GOP bills that are going to pass anyway and for Dem bills that are going to fail anyway.

      On all other matters, they follow the party line and at most pretend to be conflicted about it.

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    Guess what all of you sheep republicans…. It’s never gonna happen. Your favorite leader has betrayed you and used you to get in office and it worked. All of this time, you guys thought it was democrats that were sheep. Well baaa baaa mother fuckers

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    when you rise to power through conspiracy theories…your base is partly, perhaps even largely, comprised of conspiracy theorists. I find it interesting to consider the possibility that controlling conspiracy theorists may have limits and we may be seeing those limits at present.

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      The problem is that the base was raised on the very conspiracy theory that they are guilty of. The call was coming from inside the house.

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    Time to break out your best impression of your worst neighbors. Give them the impression you have a business and donations on the line.

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      yeah, my emails and calls to the republican that cruelly rules my district now just use a lot of allcaps and shouting