The sky is blue, moon is a rock in space, earth is a stupid name for a planet. Tell me new things
Water is wet
Water isnt wet. It makes things wet. The effect of an object a to another object b is never the state of the object a. A pen writes on paper, the paper then is writen but the pen isnt writen
(Had to. Sorry. SpaceFrogs reference)
I don’t care. Water is wet.
It’s interesting how whenever interesting topics like these appear on reddit, it devolves into paragraph long discussions. When these topics appear on lemmy, people just downvote you, call you a nerd and say they don’t give a shit. Just something I’ve noticed.
People here have a life outside this website
I’m not seeing how that prevents you from using your phone. I’m literally at work right now.
Pen was just written.
Gg.
It’s important because settlers have been denying the genocide from the beginning and still do to this day.
Racist be racist
Look, I’m on the Brit’s side on this one. Just because the aborigines have the oldest ever civilisation and just because they lived here for 100K years before the brits turned up, doesn’t mean shit.
/s obviously.
Just wait 200 years and the West will also admit to all the contemporary genocides. And will make some very touching museum to them, while committing new ones and silencing anyone opposed to it.
The genocides will continue until the morale improves.
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And Tasmanians, and Native Americans, and Indians, and Kenyans, and Irish…
Tasmanians
Tasmania is a state of Australia, all Tasmanian are Australian. Tasmanian Aboriginal peoples are the same as mainland Aboriginal peoples.
Torres Strait Islanders are the other indigenous peoples in Australia.
There’s an Australian Canadian co-production that goes into some of the atrocities the British got into:
It’s a great podcast. It would be nice if they made more episodes.
And it’s not like they’re lacking for material hah
Probably other brits…
Various forms of Gaelic are hardly languages anymore
We did all of those that identify as Celt, one way or another.
looks at Canada, then the US
Guess the apple really doesn’t fall far from the tree
They needed an inquiry?
The Inquiry:
*Opens a 7th grade social studies class textbook.
And the elites over there still think Genocide is absolutely fine as long as its Whites doing it to non-Whites, hence their support for Israel and its Genocide.
Britain is maybe the best example there is of an European country which culturally didn’t evolve much from 19th century thinking, at various levels (their political system, too, is an earlier, partial form of Democracy easily subverted).
Plenty of people over there do have a XXI century mindset, but those aren’t the ones with actual Power.
Elita support genocide as long as they get paid.
Which kind of takes out the racism, but I’m not sure it makes it better. See also them turning their head to Rwanda, the Arabs slavery and so on, as long as they invest in western companies.
Palestinian fault’s was apparently to not invest in some shitty football team
I think the profound contrast between the reaction from the British “Authorities” to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and to the Israeli Genocide in Gaza, disproves the idea that it’s all about money, especially given that there was a lot more money being made from Russia than can be made from Israel.
I mean, a musician is right now being investigated by the British Police for shouting his desire for death to the invader, genocidal army that’s purposefully mass murdering children - that of Israel - whilst nobody in Britain was ever investigated by police for wanting the death of members of the invading Russian army in Ukraine, even though the latter is barelly targetting civilians and never explicitly children (unlike the former).
Racism, extreme and profound Racism even, is the most reasonable explanation for such a massive disconnect in their reaction to those two different aggressors in proportion to the crimes they’re committing, more so given that a money reason would yield an unbalanced reaction in the very opposite direction.
I think Russia tends to be a different story because it causes uncertainty in their backyard. It is a large scale war, that threatens to spill into Europe “proper”, and that’s bad for trading and the economy in the EU.
I agree that, for most people, there is still a degree of racism, but I still think that Billionaires look primarily at your wallet (ex: Sunak is in all “proper” circles in the UK, Indian or not) and you race secondly.
IMHO l, racism is a tool to keep the poor from talking about classism. So after years of propaganda about it, it’s a problem that mostly affect the poor, while they get fucked in their wallet
Oh, from my own experience with upper class Englishmen (granted, only a handful) when living in Britain, Sunak isn’t really a “proper” upper class person in their eyes, especially for those who are Old Wealth as he’s both not White and his wealth doesn’t go back enough generations - it’s pretty hard to get accepted into the English upper class circles even if you did attend one of the posher Public Schools and even when inside there are different “classes” of people.
Very wealthy people really are a petty as the rest, and though most are pragmatic in their choice of actions when their economic interests are at stake, they’ll definitelly follow their own petty impulses when such interest are not really at stake.
I mean, the various very public actions from Elon Musk, from his “pedophile” accusation to the rescuer that refused his wild-ass submarine scheme to rescue the boys in Thailand to his Nazi Salute, show him as a prime example of how the very wealthy can act driven by internal impulses even in ways that go against their best interests.
You see, almost all of the very Wealthy are were they are due to “popping out of the right vagina”, not due to superior behaviour, and this is pretty much “100% of them” when it comes to Old Wealth, so don’t presume they’ll act driven by rationality alone - if the stakes for their own interests aren’t high enough they’ll follow things like their supremacist beliefs just like the “riff-raff”, and really the main difference from the English wealthy when they do this to for example the American wealthy, is that they’ll coach the whole thing in some posh “rationale” rather than be open about their Racial Preferences or the appeal of Supremacism for them (it makes sense that somebody who was born to Wealth will be attracted to the idea that some people are born inherently superior to others and hence are more successful, as that implies that their inherent superiority is the reason for their wealth)
They needed an inquiry for this? If the British showed up, they tried to genocide, that’s just what they do
It’s always been characterized as a police action against “criminals.”
In the US, we declared war against Native Americans, so it’s more obviously a genocide. Murders of aboriginal Australians have always been constructed have been as police actions.
If the British showed up, they tried to genocide, that’s just what they do
I mean only if it’s non-white people. They’ve helped white people out sometimes - of course only when it’s aligned with their interests.
Lol have you met Ireland
Define “white”
Here in Estonia (very white folks, we’re pretty far north), the Brits lent us a few ships the first time we broke free from Russian rule. So what I meant is if you’re white, they’ll occasionally help you (probably to get back at another empire), but if you’re colored, they’ll genocide you and take your land for sure.
Yes, I’m highlighting that the definition of white has changed over time.
That’s absolutely not the case, you do a disservice to yourself if you don’t spend some time to learn more about the history of British aggression against other white people groups.
The British literally helped my extremely white people gain independence. They don’t always genocide white people is what I meant. They only sometimes genocide white people. They always genocide non-white people.
Literally the opposite of what your comment says :)
Is it? Comment above mine says that if the Brits showed up, they definitely genocided you. Mine says that it was only guaranteed to be genocide if you’re not white. The “might still be genocided if you’re white” part was left for the reader to infer, that was an error on my part, as it was a bit too subtle for no reason.
This is news?
for real. i thought this was common knowledge how ravenous the British were throughout history
What’s happening behind Pikachu?
Probably the British, sneaking up.
Brock is just standing behind him
And most of us Aussies voted no to recognise the indigenous voice in our constitution. It just never ends.
Yeah bunch of cunts, I’m a Ngombur man and it was incredibly disheartening to talk to anyone out and about and hear how they didn’t want to vote yes for what really boiled down to racist fear.
I’m so sorry, mate.
I voted yes, and got called racist by some dink simping for Lidia Thorpe in the Green and Pleasant subreddit. The immature trashy twat who campaigned No because she said it was tokenistic.
I don’t know what to think anymore.
And here I thought folks just let the Brits displace them because they’re so nice!
Certainly the posh ones will tell you they value your input as you scream from the pain due the knife they plunged into your back.
If this inquiry has no power to actually do anything about this finding, I’m not sure I understand the point.
Anyone who ever read a history book already knows about the multiple genocides. The issue is what happens now?
I guess the point would be for everyone involved to say “never again” and if someone quotes Hitler they should not win elections.
They’ll formally apologize, as talk is cheap, and then do nothing further.
And no, I’m not at all kidding or exaggerating: this is THE most common strategy in British Political and Social Elite circles for getting rid of such “problems” when denying it doesn’t work.
Deny it, deny it was a problem, deny it was systemic, apologize and claim it was too long ago and it’s pointless to do anything about it now, is a well travelled multi-step strategy in British politics (THE main strategy, even) to avoid actual consequences for their actions or lack of action.
True. This is what I am also thinking ? Everybody knows the colonial powers or imperial powers did lot of atrocities, exploitation. It is there in books.
for the same reason that everyone is entitled to due process even when things are incredibly obvious… it’s important to follow a process, to document formally, etc
And the American settlers genocided the native Americans. All the western super-powers are built of slaughter, rape and pillage.
My dude, pretty much all countries have been founded by genocidal settlers.
Problem is that some of them can’t get past it and keep being genocidal settlers.
Exactly.
The problem is those countries were the 19th century colonialist mindset isn “something we fortunately left behind” but instead is alive and well.
Absolutely true, but the point isn’t whataboutism (well, sometimes it is, but it shouldn’t be). The point should be admitting and owning our mistakes and doing what we reasonably can to:
a) admit that we did and validate the experience of the people who suffered from it
b) make sure we’re not still doing it (way too often we still are, just through subtler means)
c) try to make reparations if we canEven getting to step ‘a’ is a big fucking step. Nobody’s innocent, but honesty is the foundation on which improvements can be made.
Well, once you’ve had your country invaded by rabid psychopaths, there’s bound to be some gene admixture (to put that far too mildly) and so you’ve a chance that their descendents, even if it’s recessive and rare, will have the desire go on to do the same.
Of course, rabid psychopathy and the urge to invade other places can also come about on its own, but when you look at the way the Vikings and their Germanic cousins invaded western Europe a thousand years or so ago, and then note what happened a few hundred years later, it has to make you wonder whether it might have only happened the once.
This completely depends on the organisation of society and has nothing to do with genetics. I don’t even know what you are going on about.
BTW Germans were also invaded by Asian people multiple times. In fact, the most brutal genocide in history scaled to population size was committed by an Asian dude against mostly Europeans. It’s not like some nations were better with this than others. Middle-Eastern people did it just the same as Latins as well as Vikings and North, West and East Asians.
You think other empires weren’t. No slaves in Russia, Persia or china. Rest of the world was peaceful and dainty.
How about the americas pre Columbus. Do you think they were peaceful and had not slaves.
I mean, idk about the Aztecs but the Incas didn’t. But regardless, chattel slavery is a purely Western creation and for at least two millennia the European man has been the main source of grief and destruction in the world. Idc if you refute it, I understand why you would, but it’s neither productive nor honest.
The Inca routinely displaced entire ethnic groups to seed new lands…
Your “I don’t know” and your “I don’t care” pretty much sum up you grasp of history
So now what ? Are the families or descendents of those indigenous australians alive today in australia ? After so many years what kind of compensation will be provided or what kind of justice will be provided ?
