All from in this thread in !world@lemmy.world about a chant at a British music festival where an artist said “death, death to the IDF”.

After other users were quoting that chant in the comments and had comments removed and banned, the hero of our story, @theacharnian@lemmy.ca (appearing as “acargitz”) pointed out that under international law, fighting an occupying force is legitimate. But apparently not under world news rules, as their removed comments and the many explanations from mods make clear in the thread.

Equally against the rules is the call for the eradication of an organisation or business, even without an explicit call to violence against individual members of the business.

In the same thread: user @DeathToTheIDF@lemmings.world had comments removed for being anti-American “(again)”, though I couldn’t see the first time. It’s not even clear to me how the removed comments were anti-American.

Bonus points for the “DC Comics” removal reason. Though this seems to be incompetence, rather than malice.

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      If there was an armed thug murdering defenseless children on a street, and there was someone calling to kill the thug to stop children being murdered, would you ban the person calling to defend the children?

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        See the Francine Hughes case re: self defense and how it is completely legally defensible to light your abusive husband on fire while he sleeps, per US law. Self defense isn’t generally considered violence and isn’t generally labeled as violence either.

        So why can we only talk about the violence committed by corporations and billionaires, and not talk about self defense?

        Ofc, there are many ways to resist nonviolently, here is a free book about it: https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501756061/pranksters-vs-autocrats/#bookTabs=1

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        If there was an armed thug murdering defenseless children on a street, and there was someone calling to kill the thug to stop children being murdered, would you ban the person calling to defend the children?

        The thug is old and senile so that makes it ok.

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        You, sir, need to separate real life from the online world.

        Nobody is saying not to intervene in real life actions happening before you. But if you want to be the “Internet Tough Guy”, yes, that bullshit will get removed.

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            If you advocate for violence in our communities, your comment will be removed. Full stop. I don’t see how I can make it clearer. Do you need single syllable words?

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              Answer the fucking question. Simple yes or no will suffice.

              If there was an armed thug murdering defenseless children on a street, and there was someone calling to kill the thug to stop children being murdered, would you ban the person calling to defend the children?

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                  That isn’t a loaded question lol, per your own link, it is a direct question asking for a clarification of your morals. You’re just too dishonest to engage with it.

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                    I will absolutely engage in good faith questions. That’s a bad faith question which has been asked and answered.

                    Lemmy communities are not the real world and promoting violence is not accepable in them, full stop.

                    They don’t like that answer because it’s the truth.

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                    I absolutely can, you just won’t accept the answer you deserve.

                    Come into one of the communities I mod preaching violence, you’re going to have a bad day. Suck it.

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        It doesn’t. But lemmy.world does, and the individual communities on it also do.

        Ask the folks on lemm.ee how not belonging to anybody worked out. lemmy.one is following soon.

        Each community has their own rules, same as each instance does.

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      Except when violence is the default, against someone you dont consider a person.

      Then you can call for it to continue, and only asking for it to stop is violent.