A nation that has glorified Mossad blackmail (and its operators facilitating the act), which has supercharged all the worst aspects of Gladio? No way.
I don’t know how there’s people being like “uhhh this is antisemitic sweaty” when it’s the fucking Jerusalem post. There’s evidence that Gladio had operators in the Vatican engage in immoral acts on camera before they could be brought in, that’s a ritual. It doesn’t need to be all candles and blood of babies and hailing Belzebub or whatever shit you think when you read the word, that’s all you.
There’s also a long history of 20th and 21st Century fascist groups combining violent ritual and pedophilia both as an expression of ideology or as potential bonding / blackmail for members. The Order of the Solar Temple and it’s precursor, the Children Of God, more recently the Order of Nine Angels etc.
They literally claim there’s a ritual to make people forget the abuse. Please read the article first.
I did read the article.
They literally claim there’s a ritual to make people forget the abuse.
Ok? It wouldn’t surprise me that they would try, MKUltra spent about a decade doing outlandish shit (abunch of of which is still classified) to attempt mind control, interrogation and memory wiping.
You seem to be working under the assumption that if you find it ridiculous it can’t be true. Some of these things are intentionally weird, as in the process of Mafia guys being made which, again, bled into Gladio and Gladio bled into it. The cruelty against animals, the participation of other children in the abuse, that’s not even unique. Look into La Luz del Mundo.
Why would you give such a huge benefit of the doubt to a state that films classrooms full of children being “taught” that Arabs are subhumans who stole the land and would kill every single Jewish kid if you allow them to reproduce?
It is ridiculous. It is silly, and its silly to take that claim seriously.
Go get the fuckers that trafficked these people. But I’m not gonna pretend that sex trafficking ceremonies are anything but a TV episode, especially one filled to the brim with antisemitic tropes
Oh, so I suppose the many times it has historically happened by the hand of the guys that made the Mossad’s playbook is just imaginary shit?
Again, good luck out there.
The claim is a ritual which is “meant” to make them forget, no claim of it actually existing. I mean they are talking about it while giving testimony about what they were made to endure.
They also say it involved drugs, which could be part of said ritual and help to try and make people forget. I don’t think anyone has enough information from the article to be making confident assumptions about what exactly happened because there isn’t enough information in the article, full stop.
I don’t know why people find the “ritual” aspect of this hard to believe. The zionist elite love playing into anti-semetic tropes. They love antisemitism, they want people to fall into antisemitic thinking. This helps them dismiss criticism of Israel by calling it antisemitic. And they want Jews around the world to think thier countries are full of antisemites and to feel unsafe, so that they come to Israel. And, on a personal level, I think they get off on it. Like “hehe, we ARE the monsters you say we are, what’re you going to do about it?” type shit. Like the satanic panic was bullshit, but there are “edgy” (seems like not an extreme enough descriptor, but idk what other word to use) satanists, like O9A types, who do want to actually ritually murder people. Like they get off on trying to actually embody the ridiculous over the top image of the Satanist made up by panicking Christians. This could be similar.
No, they’re totally right. There have never been documented groups of men doing symbolic but strange rituals in secret and denying it.
Seriously, though, that is one of the least unbelievable things I’ve heard about Zionists and would easily believe it if victims came forward to accuse pretty much any settler-bourgeois group of this. I don’t know why people in this thread are taking these victim-blaming, “antisemitism” positions though, would expect it on reddit but that’s very surprising. I’m not even thinking fraternal groups like Masons or Odd Fellows, they just have their dinners and drinking games or petty whatever, but there are serious circles and orders of sick fucks out there. It’s not necessarily an antisemitic thing but strange how child SA rings happen to always be ran or connected at higher levels to bourgeois or bourgeois-aspiring though. Death to the bourgeoisie.
Even large groups like the Kiwanis Club are rampant with grimey abusers.
Even the Order of Owls??
It looks like practicing being able to hurt people is a a thing all bourgeois do. Settlers especially. So the claim is believable in general. If you said this about the people who professionally don’t value human life in any country I would believe it. Given the timing I have to think something else is going on with all this though
I mean it’s the epstein country so what do you expect.
Yeah I was going to say they’re got so many sex offenders.
This sounds like something out of Der Stürmer, but no, it’s just the Jerusalem Post.
To be fair the jesuralem post is basically the isreali der sturmer
jesuralem post is basically the isreali der sturmer
actually, that would be Time of Israel
I actually thought the lebensraum article had been written in the jerusalem post
Jerusalem post and Time of Israel are basically outlets for Zionist boomers’ to express their grievances
Sure, but Der Stürmer was writing about the Other while the Jerusalem Post is… Not.
Without further details this sounds like satanic panic stuff
If you want to get your mind blown and do a nice exercice in critical thinking, google Michael Aquino. Took me a couple days to untangle that one.
Look at his fucking eyebrows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Angelo_Aquino
Wtf I just read the wiki and…wtf?
Fascism and it’s fascination with occultism.
People read one headline and shut off entirely, come on now
Yeah this reads like protocols of zion q anon satanic panic shit.
There are definitely pedos in the government, probably every government. Turning it into “rituals” and whatnot is where it gets ridiculous and should be treated as such.
So you think the survivors should be ridiculed? Why would the Jerusalem Post write slander about its own government and why would an organization for survivors of sex trafficking and prostitution tar their own name by taking on liars?
Yeah this thread is kind of veering of into victim blaming these survivors because they’re israelis? Like given, everything, the zionist entity has done is it really all that far fetched that their political elite are engaging in stuff like this? I’d think it’d be more harmful to say these girls are lying because they’re jewish, that sounds antisemitic.
That’s a pretty disingenuous read of my comment.
I’m absolutely willing to believe she was assaulted,removedd, and trafficked. Calling it a ritual is farfetched to say the least and smacks of antisemitic conspiracy theories. She specifically mentions rituals to make her forget. Those don’t exist. Never have, never will. I’m not going to entertain that from an “NGO” that is literally a glorified facebook group, according to their own website.
As far as I can tell, the survivors themselves are the ones claiming there were rituals, not the article author (or the NGO, per the edit). We should definitely be cautious about antisemitic conspiracy theories, but my understanding is that this is an Israeli publication quoting the words of survivors who have come forward publicly, which I think lends this some credibility.
Yes, I recognize that they are quoting a few of these survivors, but that’s also the entire angle of the article. I’m not sure I’d say how much credibility the jerusalem post has to offer, but your point is valid.
I’m slightly confused by your comment. Who’s making it into or making it sound like an antisemtic conspiracy theory? The victims or the Jerusalem Post? Or was your point something else I’m missing? (Not trying to argue, just genuinely not sure I’m understanding what you mean)
The victims are claiming ritual abuse a la q anon/protocols/satanic panic. While I absolutely believe they were trafficked, I think it is unlikely there were any actual “rituals”, to say the least.
This is a nation that has soldiers routinely pose with assaulted women’s clothes, widespread TikTok dances in occupied zones, brags about raping prisoners, has street parades chanting about dismembered children, has intelligence operatives to get blackmail material or create it.
You might as well be saying “Vader wouldn’t condone this”. I trust what you find likely or unlikely far less than multiple victims. Ritual only means that it was made in a very specific way and as a matter of routine initiation or passage.
In a society that seems to value blackmail as a sort of social MAD, this wouldn’t surprise me in the least. Gladio already did shit like that and the CIA taught Mossad whatever Mossad didn’t teach back to them.
The direct quote about the ritual is that its supposed to magically make them forget the abuse, it was not just a routine or passage. No, I don’t believe isreali politicians and cops are doing q anon. They’re trafficking people, certainly. I think everyone can agree on that. But this isn’t tv. Nobody is doing sex abuse magic. Nobody is attempting it.
They never said magic. They said it was a ritual which, again, you’re deliberately putting mystical shit where there isn’t any. They did mention drugs and torture, which the CIA and their bastard child Mossad aren’t shy to use.
This kind of reads like hasbara.
why do you think you know the details of what they went through better than they do?
Why do I think ritualistic sex abuse that has magic to make people forget what was done to them didn’t happen? That’s your question?
They never said the word “magic”. That’s all you.
They said that the abusers had practices around the abuse made deliberately outlandish to make testimony not believable, that they were made to participate in the abuse of others, that there were attempts to make them forget and that drugs were involved.
There’s no mention of magic. Not content with undermining other Jewish victims testimony, now you’re making shit up. To what end?
Gotcha, cheers.
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That Israel Hayom paper sounds like their version of Murdoch’s media
So, will people finally admit that there is a distinct probability that Jeffrey Epstein was indeed working with Mossad?
