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        Yep Reagan was an absolute douchebag. He really thought that rich people earned every dollar and that poor people were leeches on society and the government. He’s also famous for coining the phrase “welfare Queen”. As if living on welfare was somehow an easy life

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          He’s also directly responsible (along with Thatcher) for the neoliberal economic order which dominates the globe today, favoring the wealthy while offering nothing but austerity to the poor.

          Before him, we had the remnants of the New Deal economic order, which wasn’t perfect but relative to today’s standards it was basically social democracy. Of course, Nixon took a chunk out of that progress, but it wasn’t truly dead until Reagan.

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              You forgot one, “Rich white people.” while typically they are associated with the first two, there are distinct evils that happen as well.

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                If you can’t see the inherent connection between Reagan-era economic policies and “rich white people” becoming the monstrosity that it is today, then I think this conversation is above your level.

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                  No, incorrect, there is a breed of rich white people in the democrat and apolitical space. These are the fucks that go on artist retreats abroad and then come back and makes sure all thier friends know that they went on that retreat via slide show and make a point of telling everyone how thier retreat opened thier spiritual mind or some shit. It’s also the white cracker ass families that you see on the sides of crochet sets or mildly expensive out door novelties play sets. It’s so strange but those fucks are real. This is also the people who don’t know what the fuck a lemmy is, or hell even a reddit is. These are the people whos major goals is to make the best lemon pie at the local hoa meeting for thier ritzi rich people neighborhood. These are the people who are so far out of the loop that they make decisions that harm us poor, not our an ounce of maliciousness, rather, because they have enough money that they no longer worry about worldly shit. Go read Anne Moody, Taylor Branch, and anything about HOAs and why they formed. They are distinct non-republican entity that live in thier own plastic universe.

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                    Wow, there’s a lot to unpack here.

                    First of all, you’re ignoring the fact that Reagan’s policies and legacy disproportionally benefit the rich and disadvantage the poor regardless of political affiliation, so you are demonstrating your ignorance right off the bat.

                    Second of all, it sounds like you’re criticizing the upper-middle class rather than the owner/oligarch caste that’s actually the problem. I don’t give a fuck if a doctor or a lawyer makes six figures and has a more comfortable life than I do. I give a fuck that a billionaire who owns the means of production and contributes nothing to society is able to siphon the wealth of a nation, give proportionally nothing back in taxes while simultaneously milking the nation’s coffers, hoard the fruits of other people’s labor which is necessary to their livelihoods; all without lifting a finger other than to place it on the policy decisions of easily-bribed lawmakers.

                    If you can’t see the difference between those two things, then this conversation is indeed above your level.

                    Next:

                    It’s also the white cracker ass families that you see on the sides of crochet sets or mildly expensive out door novelties play sets.

                    Wow, okay, just bring racism into it. It’s totally possible to criticize class disparity without dropping slurs but you did it anyway.

                    Also, what the fuck do crochet sets and play sets have to do with anything? I don’t give a shit what people do in their free time, and it’s really weird that you’re choosing to fixate on and resent that of all the things. You sound like jealous brat who doesn’t care about uplifting the poor and the marginalized, but only wants to tear people down to your level because of nothing but envy.

                    These are the people whos major goals is to make the best lemon pie at the local hoa meeting for thier ritzi rich people neighborhood.

                    What the fuck is wrong with wanting to bring something nice to a potluck? That transcends socioeconomic status. If you want to focus on the problems with HOAs, then focus on that but lemon pie isn’t one of them.

                    These are the people who are so far out of the loop that they make decisions that harm us poor, not our an ounce of maliciousness, rather, because they have enough money that they no longer worry about worldly shit.

                    Those are the billionaire oligarchs, not the upper-middle class who have jobs with nice salaries. If you’re focusing your ire on anyone who makes more money than you instead of the people who own the means of production and don’t have to work, then the oligarch’s propaganda is working on you.

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          And him, along with Hitler and Drump, promised to “make america (Germany) great again”, word for word.

          As in, return it to the time where you could beat a black boy to death by accusing him of whistling at a white women and face zero repercussions.

          Absolute evil.

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        Yeah… I’m sure hurricane victims hate hearing that shit. Or wildfire victims. I could go on and on. It’s almost like if you actually think about any of these stupid ass Republican catch phrases for a minute they’re complete bullshit.

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          Well republican-led states literally rejected disaster relief aid from Biden’s government, and then blamed Biden for supposedly not helping. And people in those backwater areas bought it hook line and sinker.

          And then early on in trump’s second term when Texas got rid of early flood warning systems, and a bunch of girl scouts died in a flash flood because they were all camping on a flood plane, nobody batted an eye about the government’s failure.

          (By the way, there was a town in texas that kept their warning systems in place, and they experienced zero deaths from that flood. Golly days).

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            Honestly, the lack of measures against disaster is a likely predictor of how well the Neo-Confederate states would do in a 2nd American Civil War.

            That makes me hopeful about the ending of that future history, for rather horrific reasons. 😕

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      “Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits.” -George Carlin

      Well, shit. That’s only seven. Fuck. Take ‘em or leave ‘em you cocksucking motherfuckers. 😘

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      Mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall and fuck me.

      the 80s was a wild time. this is the photo that was taken soon after Reagan had been penetrated, anally, by Gorbachev. you can tell how happy he was by the smile on his face.

      1000003935

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            So let me get this straight:

            You’re knowingly peddling misinformation (which makes it disinformation), which only discredits all of the legitimate critique present in this thread; and your response to someone asking for confirmation whether what you said is true or not was a snarky reply insinuating that I’m somehow gullible (for asking if something was true? Which is not the same thing as unquestioning belief, by the way).

            In other words, you find it so hilarious and depraved that anyone could possibly wonder if anything you say is worth taking seriously?

            At least I know now that you’re not a serious person.

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              Me when someone tells a joke

              On the one hand, there’s no fucking way you thought it might be possible that Reagan had said “tear down this wall and fuck me.” But on the other hand, it would be really funny if you did, so I choose to believe it

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                Obviously the quote would be the joke, but it was insinuating that he actually did have sex with Gorbachev, which is honestly not that outlandish and was worth asking for confirmation.

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                    If King Richard and Suliman the Magnificent could be butt buddies during the crusades, what’s stopping a couple of cold war era heads of state of rival world powers from being star-crossed lovers?

                    I’m sure they had enough confidential meetings to pull it off, and do I really need to enumerate how many conservatives are actually closeted homosexuals?

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              if you’re on a political community thread and mistake Robbin Williams for Ronald Reagan you’re asking for it.

              chill tf out dude.

              whatever “disinformation” I’m “peddling” about Reagan isn’t a quarter as bad as the real shit he said or did.

              get off your high horse.

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                whatever “disinformation” I’m “peddling” about Reagan isn’t a quarter as bad as the real shit he said or did.

                Right, so take some of the legitimate critique you can make about Reagan and focus on that instead of discrediting yourself and everyone else who criticizes him by presenting falsehoods as facts “on a political thread,” as you pointed out.

                If you can’t see how damaging long-term it can be to spread bullshit instead of factual critiques, then you’re the one who has a high-horse you need to dismount.

                It’s not Reagan I’m defending, it’s the integrity of the criticism directed at Reagan.

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                    Alright, if we can’t have any serious discussions here (even on a thread in a political community, as you so rightly pointed out!) then I guess there’s no fucking point in having a fediverse at all, since apparently we’re only allowed to use it for shitposts and circlejerks.

                    Is that what you want? Is the whole reason for decentralization, autonomy, anonymity, and data sovereignty so that the government can’t see your dank-ass memes?