• WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Oh, okay. You’re doing all you can, yeah? Not at all mistaking cowardice for helplessness? Nah. Couldn’t be. Weird how your whole country dined out for a couple centuries on the myth of being REALLY good at fighting tyranny against great odds. It’s almost like you made it your entire deal and used it as a cudgel against those who suggested you weren’t living up to your stated ideals. Huh.

    • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Your country probably bought into that lie.

      And by the way it was and is Boomers who pushed that. 🤷‍♂️ We’re just along for the ride here.

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        The capital class wants to divide the working class.

        Creating generational divide is one way.

        You have way more in common with your grandparents than with a billionaire.

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          You have way more in common with your grandparents than with a billionaire.

          To put in perspective just how big a billion is: a million seconds is about 11 days. a billion seconds is 31 years. Crazy shit.

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      You could at least get your own country to stop using the US dollar, stop trading with the USA, stop buying weapons from the US at least, and stop training with the US military. That would help a LOT.

      But, instead you’d rather enable the USA. Disgusting.

      It’s a plane ticket for either one of us, and since you’re the smart one with all of the solutions, you should of course lead the way. Like you said, glass bottles and gasoline are cheap, and so are plane tickets, so hop on the plane and SAVE THE WORLD.

      Or… just sit on your ass and tell other people what to do, while your own country enables the USA. You’re doing all you can, right?

      • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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        No, keep going.

        Keep getting defensive and illustrating exactly why they’re steamrolling you. Don’t stop. It’s already clear enough to me, but I think it’s useful that other people see the mindset that’s keeping US liberals from stopping MAGA.

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          2 days ago

          Why are you obfuscating? It’s just a plane ticket, glass, and gasoline, right? So YOU can stop MAGA

          please save us from the MAGA

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            What a stupid rebuttal…

            In response to being accurately accused of not doing anything to overthrow the fascist ruling class in your own country, you ask people from other countries to come do it for you? And you think you’re being smart?

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              Of course you think it’s stupid. They are telling ME to buy a plane ticket and overthrow MAGA with glass and gasoline. They can just as easily do the same.

              “Do as I say, not as I do” applies here.

              You don’t want to be gunned down, but you’re fine with me being murdered, I get it, no fucking shit.

              Meanwhile, your own nation is shoveling money to the USA right now. If you sit at the table with Nazis, you’re a Nazi, I’ve heard. Why is your country sitting at the table with Nazis?

              Go ahead and tell me what to do… but then, I’ll tell you what to do. Not fair, is it? If only I served you.

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                “Do as I say, not as I do” applies here.

                It applies to you, silly. It’s YOUR government. Your need to be willing to fight for it, and it’s okay to ask for external help but it’s not okay to insist it’s everyone else’s problem.

                I’ll be your Che, but you have to be Fidel first.

                Actually, you do you, your country is heading for collapse that will primarily hurt you, and most of the rest of the world will be better off.

                You don’t want to be gunned down, but you’re fine with me being murdered, I get it, no fucking shit.

                You’re a coward, that’s the only thing you think everyone is afraid of. You’re fine with our people being drone struck at weddings or in ambulances, you’re fine with your country completely destroying our homelands and genociding us, I get it, no fucking shit. You only care about you and yours.

                But again, they’re coming for you next.

                Meanwhile, your own nation is shoveling money to the USA right now.

                I assure you, my nation isn’t shoveling any money to the USA. I can’t wait for the empire to fall. I hope the coward citizens can make something good out of it, but I’m watching the same film I’ve seen many times before; a cult of personality comes to power and slowly strips away any mechanisms to stop him, then he targets and eliminates any opposition to his rule, secures military allegiance and sits on a throne and never leave. And finally when you’re ready to step up comes the torture camps and disappearances.

                Enjoy having your vote counts before its cast for dear leader, if they decide to keep up the voting facade in the first place. Might just declare martial law and cancel elections permanently.

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                You’re doing an excellent job of illustrating why your country is where it is. What is it with Americans being fundamentally incapable of accepting criticism?