Rimu published yet another hit piece against the /0 instance and this time posted it in his own instance comms as well. One of his mods jumped in, admitted they don’t know anything about anything, but nevertheless felt confident enough to state their opinion as fact and in the process insult all of us collectively, then stickied his opinion for good measure.

So I decided to reply sarcastically, at which point that mod insulted me and locked the thread, which is apparently a feature in piefed which simply hides/deletes further replies in that thread, but since it’s not a feature in lemmy, it appears to function like a shadow delete.

This is what my last reply would have been.

(Yes I’m being snarky, but that “I’m so mature” bullshit just rubs me the wrong way.)

In my opinion, using mod powers to get the last insult in, is just bastard behaviour.

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    The AI generated text includes quotes that do not exist. I don’t see any evidence the moderators are aware of this fact. If they knew but haven’t made it clear, that is a moderator deficiency. If they didn’t knew, that is a far worse deficiency.

    I believe the right call was made here, but the wrong tools were used to make it. A coin toss might have also yielded the correct result. My concern is that future moderation decisions could be both sloppy and incorrect because AI cannot parse meaning.

    (AI is used to decide to kill who to kill in Palestine. I hope this is not an offensive fact, nor that you are implying it should be unspoken until some future time you deem appropriate.)

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      Every single linked comment works for me - can you provide an example?

      Every comment I checked (there are links) works, and every comment I check exists. And matches whats in the summary.

      Which quote does not exist? You keep saying they don’t, but not saying which.

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        Emphasis is important here: The AI generated text includes quotes that do not exist.

        If you see links, you are no longer in the AI-generated text, but rather in an apparently non-curated comment dump.

        For example, surely this is not evidence that the ban is justified… I hope:

        Date: 2026-04-17T13:51:01.747786Z
        Comment ID: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/24890311
        Post ID: 591643
        Community ID: 351
        
        When the Molly hits just right. 
        

        You can argue that the quotes are close enough, but that’s not what quotes are for. And I believe the ban is justified, but it’s very concerning to see how they reach that justification.

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          The AI generated text includes quotes that do not exist.

          The summary paraphrased? Wow. Whodathunkit.

          If you see links, you are no longer in the AI-generated text,

          Summary.

          but rather in an apparently non-curated comment dump.

          The reference text used for evaluation.

          For example, surely this is not evidence that the ban is justified… I hope:

          Its a direct quote. I don’t follow. What is the misquote?

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            Okay, now I see you are being disingenuous.

            Quote marks are for quotations, not approximations.

            And I provided part of the comment dump, which is not the AI “summary”, to demonstrate the dump is not curated.

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              OK, what text are you suggesting is a misquote?

              Because you showed a comment that is exactly as written. What’s the misquote? The summary at the top? The quoted comments at the bottom?

              Please provide an example. Your current example is an exact quote of the comment shown as a reference.

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      I’m not seeing any fabricated quotes, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there are. So long as this is just used as a summary tool and at least some of the posts are vetted I still don’t see a problem.

      I am aware how Israel uses ML in their military, I’m just saying I think it’s hyperbole comparing banning someone from a website (negligible harm) with someone getting murdered by a state actor. I also don’t find it ironic that DB0 is using them, ML/AI are just tools. If Israel builds bombs with an arc welder does any use of welding machines make someone a hypocrite for criticizing Israel making bombs? Forgive the crude analogy, it’s the best I can come up with while I’m half paying attention to a meeting.

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      And it includes quotes that do exist and links to them.

      Which is why the human who looks at those results can are what’s real and what isn’t and ban someone.

      Bot summary

      - Statements that “they’re killing children” is mere outrage propaganda
      

      Bot found post:

      Is a common propaganda technique to induce outrage. Even if it was a 17 year old terrorist.

      Young adults are not children.

      Bot linked post

      https://sh.itjust.works/comment/24309248

      Actual Post

      Is a common propaganda technique to induce outrage. Even if it was a 17 year old terrorist.

      Young adults are not children.

      The AI identified this disgusting comments and linked to the original source. You are deliberately cherry picking nothingburgers to try and pretend it’s useless.

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        They can, but the moderator responsible for the AI summary has been evasive about whether they did.

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          Th thread is locked so people cannot reply and you’re making up lies about them being evasive because they won’t reply?

          Get lost troll.

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            I posted the exact same thing right here. db0 told me to go elsewhere. Seems evasive to me.

            https://piefed.social/comment/11220336

            I’ll assuming for the final time that you’re making extreme accusations not in bad faith, and will realize your mistake and apologize here.