https://feddit.org/post/13994826/7165181

Everything I downvoted was because I genuinely do not think it’s good. Like meat is not going to cure cancer.

I actually really like eating meat I just try to life a life that gives others room to enjoy this earth too without mutually destroying it.

Please tell me how I am the asshole :)

  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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    Nah, you actively promote the idea that the WHO and other cancer orgs are lying about red meat. I’m good not getting ass cancer

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      You haven’t been banned.

      The WHO has not established causation. Cancer rates globally have risen geometrically since the 1900s, red meat consumption as actually gone down globally since 1900. If red meat is a problem it isn’t a new problem, so it can’t be responsible for the rise in cancer since 1900.

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        3 days ago

        I meant nah to joining your sub meant to kill people through ignorance. Processed meats absolutely cause ass cancer. You have yet to say anything about how meat eaters should avoid processed meats.

        In the past, people were eating things like liver, heart, brain, tongue, and other organs that have unique stores of vitamins (eg coq10). People only eat muscle meat now, rarely do they have access to organ meat that isn’t also processed. I’ve seen hunters in Alaska eat a fresh bleeding heart from a caribou - sure, THOSE guys are indicated for it. But your average person in the US is not eating a balanced diet on only carnivore and not getting enough fat soluble vitamins.

        Last, our society has put carcinogens into almost everything we touch. Laundry detergent, soaps all have benzene rings. The DDT from the 70s is still here, just buried under topsoil. There’s glyphosate in every water table in the US. There’s mercury contamination from the Gold Rush in nearly the entire west coast and Appalachia. You are being simplistic with your reasoning here that because cancer rates rose, then that must mean meat is okay - lol, no. We just are poisoning ourselves, so much so that it is pushing at the boundaries of human survival: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh2458

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          Processed meats absolutely cause ass cancer.

          Can you please cite the non-epidemiology study establishing this causation?

          people were eating things like liver, heart, brain, tongue, and other organs that have unique stores of vitamins (eg coq10). People only eat muscle meat now, rarely do they have access to organ meat that isn’t also processed.

          The carnivore community agrees that every part of animal needs to be eaten from tip to tail in the same proportions as in the animal.

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            The WHO explicitly says it causes cancer, I cited that above. Can you explain what a non-epidemology study would look like for this research? Genuinely curious what you think this is

            Pffft lmfao when was the last time you ate liver? Brain?

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                And brain? Heart? When did you eat those last?

                Their statement is based on research and is an official statement. That is reality.

                Again, can you explain what a non-epidemology study would look like for this research? Genuinely curious what you think this is

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                  Their statement is based on research and is an official statement. That is reality.

                  We are just talking in circles at this point. We have different standards of evidence.

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                    Can you explain what a non-epidemology study would look like for this research? You have actually not explained what you would consider as evidence