Veteran 60 Minutes anchor Scott Pelley reported on Donald Trump’s efforts to strong-arm some of the country’s top law firms into doing his bidding on Sunday night’s episode of the embattled CBS newsmagazine.
Pelley’s segment pulled no punches in describing Trump’s efforts and reminding viewers that Trump is the “first felon” ever to sit in the Oval Office.
Nixon didn’t do shit compared to Donald
Because he inherited a mostly functional democratic society and not the shitshow Trump took over from Obama and later Biden.
The question is not what they got, but if they make it better or worse.
Trump measurablly made a lot worse. On a economic AND human quality of life level.
The point I’m trying to make is that Trump managed to make things so much worse because he came at the end of a chain reaction that started around Nixons era. Nixon was restrained by a robust democratic system and society and therefore his shittiness was aimed at sabotaging that system so his successors would have a free hand to ruin everything, so while the shittiness was much less obvious that doesn’t make Nixon better than Trump, just less flashy. We can’t understand Trump without understanding the more than half a century of sabotage of the democratic system by both sides of the aisle (more so by republicans) that led up to him, with special attention to Nixon, Reagan, GWB and Obama.
Well, you claimed a shitshow was given from biden and Obama.
From the perspective of me as a non-American reading american news and media that statement was simply incorrect.
That’s all.
Okay admittedly that wasn’t as clear as it could’ve been but I meant shitshow in terms of viability as a democratic society, so for example democratic norms, rule of law. separation of power and public faith in democratic institutions. Obama and especially Biden left those in shambles, which is why Trump has been able to get as far as he did.
It’s useless man, people are just looking at their finances and their fake freedoms (I can choose between McDonald’s and Popeye what to eat!!! Muh freedom!!!) to understand that they’ve lost their actual freedoms with the patriot act and a series of sweeping changes to the rule of law due to the “war on terror” the USA have brought on since the start of the 2000s. Before that it was an all out attack against economic freedoms, starting with the cancellation of the differentiation between investment and saving banks until the loss in regulations against malpractices brought forward by corporations.
The best slave is the one who think he is free because he won’t fight back under no circumstances. They cannot see any chains on their wrists but are unable to see the (always shorter) leash around their neck. And they would die defending their masters, thinking to be fighting the good fight.
We can just try to present our position as clearly as possible, we could be opening the eyes of someone reading our comments and that’s all that matter.
Keep on keeping on dude
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Did I ever imply otherwise? More relevantly, do I sound like I care?
Yes, the gift of unpopular wars, wildly expanded executive power, a massive surveillance state, backlash to ineffectual neoliberal rule, etc. The march towards fascism started with either Reagan or Nixon, and not with Trump. Trump took a society teetering on the edge of fascism and gave it the final push it needed to fall in.
You think you make good points but you don’t.
And yet you’re the one who cancelled his comment. Pray tell, is it not true that the rise in American authoritarianism started in the late 60es, when the government started to act in spite of what public opinions thought about its action in foreign countries and wars? If not, can you please post any proof supporting this thesis of yours? Because it’s sure as he’ll that I, as many others, will never take your word for granted if you aren’t able to support it with factual information.
Take your head out if your ass and realise that American (like most of us in the “developed” world) have been bought with pearls and trinkets to subdue their reasoning capabilities and voices to capitalism and its venomous fruits. The sooner you accept this ACTUAL FACT the sooner you can start fighting the good fight against capitalism and its cronies (who may also be your friends and family; not all capitalists drive around in nice cars or live in big villas. Most of them are “momentarily embarrassed billionaires” or delusional victims as I like to call them)
Then your comment was such a load of shit that it was removed from a moderator. Either way the original comment we were replying to is no longer with us so I cannot tell the point you were arguing about in it, I inferred its contents from the first reply by NoneOfUrBusiness and the citations he provided with it.
Furthermore your reply to NoneOfUrBusiness answer to your original post was just a “no, you’re wrong and I’m right”. Such a level of discussion, you must be a sage in your community. If your community is a kindergarden .
Lastly you can have opinions, too bad they are shit opinions not supported by facts
I mean, sure, you could call it a shitshow, but whenever a republican is president, they make things even worse than a shitshow. 😛
Hahhahahahahahhahahaha then when was the last good economy? 2008? LOL
I never said anything about the economy. Reread my reply; I said “mostly functional democratic society”. Democratic norms and checks and balances were in much better shape when Nixon took office than when Trump did.
Are you high?
He’s got a point. As far as culture, norms, and sensibility, it was before Obama. However, he’s leaving out that we got to here because shit heads like him had a fuse blow in their brain when a black man became president.
What kind of shithead exactly? I’m not sure what group I’m being pegged as here.
That’s certainly part of it, but let’s not pretend Obama’s biggest contribution to the march to fascism was being a black man. Continuing the war on terror after Bin Laden’s death handily gets that honor.
I will not dignify that with a response.
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