Investigators say confusion between air traffic controllers and communication breakdown with fire truck contibuted to crash at New York airport that left two dead and 43 injured
The lack of a transponder on the fire truck most definitely would be a contributing factor. The lack of any visual indicators on ATC screens would lead one to believe that the runway is clear when it isn’t.
The plane was on or just about on the runway by the time they cleared the truck. The runway wouldn’t have appeared clear because of the plane. The transponder may have helped atc visualize the conflict and definitely could have enabled automated alerts, but not because the runway otherwise appeared clear.
Edit alright I actually read the article. So the plane was cleared to land 2 minutes before the truck was cleared to cross and the truck entered the runway just about the same time as the touch down of the flight. I still don’t think the transponder would have made ATC operate differently on their own (because tower cleared them to land well before and ground cleared truck 1 to cross after the plane was over the runway threshold basically), but automated alerts could have still caught this. I guess the truck having a transponder could have alerted tower to call a go around, but idk if they would have noticed that.
The lack of a transponder on the fire truck most definitely would be a contributing factor. The lack of any visual indicators on ATC screens would lead one to believe that the runway is clear when it isn’t.
The plane was on or just about on the runway by the time they cleared the truck. The runway wouldn’t have appeared clear because of the plane. The transponder may have helped atc visualize the conflict and definitely could have enabled automated alerts, but not because the runway otherwise appeared clear.
Edit alright I actually read the article. So the plane was cleared to land 2 minutes before the truck was cleared to cross and the truck entered the runway just about the same time as the touch down of the flight. I still don’t think the transponder would have made ATC operate differently on their own (because tower cleared them to land well before and ground cleared truck 1 to cross after the plane was over the runway threshold basically), but automated alerts could have still caught this. I guess the truck having a transponder could have alerted tower to call a go around, but idk if they would have noticed that.
ATC was recorded saying “STOP! STOP! STOP! STOP!” to the truck driver.
ATC was understaffed and talking on multiple frequencies.
This was all predicted to happen when BigBalls was in his prime.
Ya I agree with everything you’re saying. Was there something i said you were commenting on?