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Based Spain tbh
Well at least Spain has the balls to stand for humanity. My country is being a 'lil bitch about it again. Bloody politicians that are spineless.
I’m from Germany, not much better here 😕
All of Europe is pretty bad on the global stage right now, but Germany is the worst.
Love to Germany from Sweden
Germany wanting to have the strongest army in Europe and investing more money into the military than it ever has since Nazi Germany is totally not something we should worry about
What I worry about is that Germany has a pathetic military doctrine and no comprehensive strategy for sustaining its economy beyond “rules-based world order, multilateral cooperation”
Honestly, that’s not what I worry about at all. I’m worried about the military buildup that is happening (not just in Germany). Nobody should have to die to protect state interests.
I get it. You’re not wrong. The problem is that there are violent people out there who will take advantage of and victimize entire cities, countries or civilizations if they can. If not another state, then a straight up mercenary army of the rich.
The fact that the entire world is suddenly feeling the need to arm themselves is of course super disturbing, counter-productive and is coming at the worst time ever given that all of this effort needs to go into climate disaster mitigations. And yet, if one party feels they can just pick up territory with their superior capacity for violence, the rest of us are kind of forced to try to deter that.
Sie können echt machen was sie wollen und sobald wir nicht absolut hinter ihnen stehen sind wir Antisemiten. Das muss aufhören.
Stattdessen wollen wir noch mehr mit Israel zusammenarbeiten, vor allem militärisch. Aber scheinbar ist es ja okay, wenn es die Guten sind, die Menschen töten und es ist nur schlimm, wenn es die Bösen, wie Russland oder China, machen.
Ja, wir stehen ja alle voll dahinter. Also außer dem Volk natürlich, das denkt inzwischen anders.
Und ja, leider zeigt die aktuelle Situation mit ihren vielen Facetten gerade sehr ausdrücklich dass Regeln nur dann wichtig sind, wenn bestimmte sie nicht befolgen.
Ich frage mich immer ob allen Beteiligten klar is wohin es führt wenn das am Ende jeder versteht.
Ah. The anti-Semitic card.
Look here. Being of an opposing opinion with the government of Israel, has nothing to do with opposing Jewism.
It is the same with disliking the CCP and liking the Chinese. I care for the people but not for their arsehole countries / governments.
Exactly
Ah. The anti-Semitic card.
They could use some new cards, they’ve worn that one out.
They might as well get that card glued to the table with how often they try to play it
They’ve playing the “few weeks before Iran has nukes” card for 30 years and in the end someone took the bait. You just need the right kind of player at the table and that worn out card still can win the game.
Good. Now expel the US ambassador and Iran will allow Spanish oil through the Straits of Hormuz
All that olive oil has to go somewhere.
Iran doesn’t actually have the capacity to do that. They’re trying to mine the waters and they have no naval power to secure safe passage. The reality is that even if a country did comply with Iran’s demands, there’s a very good chance that the ship will get hit anyway by some rogue regional commander or some random mine.
Keep in mind, previous administrations were well aware of this scenario which is why they didn’t whack the mullah regime in this way even though they could’ve easily done it. The current situation can only be achieved by an idiot who lacks the ability to understand the consequences of their actions like Trump.
The current situation can only be achieved by an idiot who lacks the ability to understand the consequences of their actions like Trump.
Or by someone who couldn’t care less, because his rich buddies can now charge exorbinant prices and also has a new source for oil in Venezuela, which they can also sell for exorbitant prices.
They’re trying to mine the waters
absolute lie that Iran has no need to do at this time. They have full drone control over the straights/Gulf and can sink any ship at any time. Blew up 3 last night. The closer it passes by Iran the easier.
Most credible news agencies are reporting that they already started mining waters. Their goal is to close the strait, not control it. They can’t compete with America or Israel in air or naval power, so this is their alternative of applying pressure without having military superiority.
news is extremely stupid as a result of perpetual propaganda/lie machine. They can say your absurdities either to promote illusion of winning, the US started bombing civilian small boats and there needed an excuse, and 40 years ago that was strategy.
They can’t compete with America or Israel in air or naval power, so this is their alternative of applying pressure without having military superiority.
They 100% still have the power to control the Straights with supreme drone control and will use the power to selectively allow friendly shipping as they were doing yesterday. and your comment is pure stupidity if not purposeful lie.
3 people downvoted my original correction. Stop your ignorance by quitting your media.
news is extremely stupid as a result of perpetual propaganda/lie machine.
But you’re just dismissing evidence, which then makes claims impossible to verify. If you don’t trust multiple reputable news organizations reporting the same events, then what exactly do you trust to get updates on world events?
They 100% still have the power to control the Straights with supreme drone control and will use the power to selectively allow friendly shipping as they were doing yesterday. and your comment is pure stupidity if not purposeful lie.
Reiterating your claim and then claiming me stupid doesn’t prove me wrong or you right, it just shows that you lack substance. Both the old and new Khamenei stated the same strategy, which is to completely close down the strait to apply pressure on other country to apply pressure on the US and Israel to stop their attacks.
Iran will only mine the straights after it is on life support. Controlling straights is within its capability with drones/missiles and what is best for Iran’s economy at expense of other regional economies. 100%. end. Lying pig fuckers telling you otherwise should make you as upset as it makes me.
Spain has conscience
Just like when there was a big flu about 100 years ago. The world made fun of them for taking action and decided to name the flu after them.
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Hopefully you’re just naive/propagandised, Mr/Miss mod, and not just an evil little Zionist.
In the gates of straights of hormuz being open game, it is reported that Iran has made a blanket offer to countries expelling both Israel and US ambassadors to get a free pass. The normal process when you withdraw your embassador is that “enemy” must withdraw as well. You just need to ask Trump about whether he approves of Spain’s action against Israel to get removal of Spain’s ambassador to US, and then free stuff from Gulf for Spain, unless the US/Israel bombs their ships.
Noone expects the Spanish Inquisition!
My understanding is the current PM of Spain, Pedro Sanchez, is incredibly unpopular in the country and is pretty much universally hated. National polls put his party, PSOE, at just 26% support. He is consistently losing to the conservative party, PP, and the hard right party, VOX, is quickly catching up to both. There’s a very good chance that the right wing parties are going to win the next general election in 2027 and form a majority coalition. The right wing parties, especially VOX, are very much pro Israel and against everything Sanchez does. So there’s a good chance that all this good will towards Palestine is going to be reversed next year if he and his party fail to maintain their seats.
Are we believing in polls again after they have been consistently wrong for the last decade? Almost as stupid as believing polls a year and a half out from a general election means something, like reading tea leaves at this stage. The incumbent is never popular at this point, extreme views at this point tend to temper at the polling booth, especially since the Spanish economy is doing well.
The Spanish public are still massively anti Israel due to all of their genocide and everything.
and they’re massively against the US, especially as Trump has tried to attack Spain
When have the polls been wrong? The polls have been pretty damn accurate every time. Any electoral differences within the margin of error or due to some institutional technicalities. You’ll need something truly extreme to shift the trends, otherwise this is the likely outcome. The only instance of this that I remember is the Canadian conservatives were poised to win a landslides because Canada universally hated Trudeau, but then Trump threatened to invade and annex Canada and that caused a change in the voters. I don’t forsee something like that happening in Spain.
Vox is a minority party, and are not going to win the general. The danger is only they’d be put into a coalition with the center right party, PP.
And that’s looking much less likely - Sanchez and the center-left aren’t overly popular, but opposition to the Iran War and the US in general is massively popular. Vox is the only party that’s been dumb enough to support Trump over Spain (ironic for supposed nationalists), and it’s going to cost them. Even the remnants of the Falange are breaking with them on this.
If PP wins, Vox is 100% going to be in the coalition. Once they’re in coalition, they will have great sway over policy. At that point it doesn’t really matter what the people say. The parties just push their agendas regardless. That’s why Sanchez and his government are so unpopular. It would be standard, as per the history of Spain’s past governments, for the new conservative government to continue that trend.
Sanchez was already polling ahead of the PP and Vox prior to the Iran War - https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2026/02/19/surprise-polling-reveals-left-wing-pedro-sanchezs-psoe-holds-10-point-lead-over-pp/.
And his opposition to Trump, while Vox was eager to lick his boots, is a big plus here.
This is not true the PSOE has not overtaken PP in the polls since 2022.
https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/spain/
Vox has climbing up for so long now that they might surpass PSOE and become the second biggest party in the country. If they form a coalition with PP then it’s over. The poll you cited to be an outlier in the data.
Actually in the very article you posted, the biggest issue to people is housing followed by immigration. Sanchez just adopted a law giving residency to half a million illegal immigrants permanent residency despite it being an unpopular move. Consider how this is both Vox and PP forte, you know that the propaganda they’ll run is going to be historic. I have a very hard time seeing Sanchez and PSOE winning the election. If the right wing coalition wins then Spain is going to look a lot more Italy’s or Germany’s current governments.
