Not really suspension is dog shit & everything is computer.
Most people aren’t Tesla drivers though, my car gets me from A to B when taking public transit would be a pain. Bought a Nissan, smoother ride, all the features I want and physical buttons for everything I touch while driving.
You can see comments and downvotes here alone
Have you considered that it’s because you didn’t actually explain what you like about your Tesla in either your original post or here.
Sure people hate Tesla but your comments don’t give any details on what is good about Tesla, of the 3 EVs i regularly drive/ride in, it’s by far the worst, and one of them is just a pickup truck they put batteries in, but it’s still more comfortable than a Tesla.
It really doesn’t matter why Tesla is superior. “All computer” is not some sort of sin when the “computer” is good. And here lies the duplicity of talking about tesla. Anything that’s worse is “dog shit” and everything that’s leading, is “all computer” and all computer is now bad? Your phone is all computer and has 3 buttons?
No one is ever going to make good faith arguments. Air con in EVs is a lot better than ice, that’s just facts. Good air con is set and forget. So is your wheel position. But you’ll see comments only pointing out how lack of buttons is so bad! Because shit air con requires constant adjustment? I have set my car at 21 degrees. It’s now at 91k miles, I have not touched it because it does what I told it to? Same with wheel position and mirrors, why would I need to adjust them?
I’m not sure what nissan you have that the suspension is that much superior, I have only driven their leaf, didn’t blow me away but I have no other point of reference for Nissan EVs… Is taycan suspension better than model 3? Absolutely. But as a package. Tesla app and “computer” offers features actually used by human owners.
People automatically jump at conclusion I’m shilling tesla. If I did, I would’ve bought highland or juniper. But I haven’t, they’re step down in certain ways, suspension is better (and can be fitted to older models) but other things are a down grade vs pre 2024 model.
But we cannot have an honest conversion because 1. Tesla is apparently the worst 2. Tesla will kill you, car literary sets itself ablaze the moment you enter it and 3. Internet just told us to ignore it.
I test drive cars for fun. I live in a very car dealership heaven, I have driven A LOT of EVs and I’ve yet to find an replacement for my 2021 model 3. As soon as one comes? I’ll buy it. Tesla is on downwards spiral. But I won’t ignore real world experience just because Musk is a Nazi and their cars are no longer an improvement over their existing models. The sooner we collectively accept that, the sooner European brands will get their shit together and the likes of VW group stop selling shit that looks identical to my old 2016 Skoda.
Always has been, I don’t want to be fumbling around in settings when I’m driving,
I have set my car at 21 degrees. It’s now at 91k miles, I have not touched it because it does what I told it to
Cool story but do you have any friends or family that get in your car and want a different temperature, adjusting AC is a pretty common task for most people. If my dog is in my car i’ll lower it when he starts panting for example.
People automatically jump at conclusion I’m shilling tesla
I mean your saying shit like Tesla is objectively better because it is all computer, when that isn’t what most drivers want.
If you just said you like your Tesla and you like everything being computer, that would be one thing, but you’re insisting that’s it’s better because of the features most people hate but you like and are willing to sacrifice what most people consider more important (suspension & ease of use) so that you get that feature, then claiming all other EVs are worse as if nobody else has used a Tesla and we’re all lying about not liking it.
But we cannot have an honest conversion
If you can’t have a conversation with 1 person, that might be them, but if you can’t have an honest conversation with anyone, the problem is probably you.
I didn’t say tesla is better because it’s all computer. There’s nothing but hostility coming from your comments, “cool story”, seriously dude? Back to 2009 are we?
I can have this conversation with people in real world, you mean to tell me Lemmy is good representation of public and public perception? If that’s the case. Tesla is already dead, we cured world hunger and trans people are no longer in danger, we did it Lemmy! This place is as much of a hive mind as is reddit or twitter. The same behavior just different opinion.
Not really suspension is dog shit & everything is computer.
Most people aren’t Tesla drivers though, my car gets me from A to B when taking public transit would be a pain. Bought a Nissan, smoother ride, all the features I want and physical buttons for everything I touch while driving.
Have you considered that it’s because you didn’t actually explain what you like about your Tesla in either your original post or here.
Sure people hate Tesla but your comments don’t give any details on what is good about Tesla, of the 3 EVs i regularly drive/ride in, it’s by far the worst, and one of them is just a pickup truck they put batteries in, but it’s still more comfortable than a Tesla.
It really doesn’t matter why Tesla is superior. “All computer” is not some sort of sin when the “computer” is good. And here lies the duplicity of talking about tesla. Anything that’s worse is “dog shit” and everything that’s leading, is “all computer” and all computer is now bad? Your phone is all computer and has 3 buttons?
No one is ever going to make good faith arguments. Air con in EVs is a lot better than ice, that’s just facts. Good air con is set and forget. So is your wheel position. But you’ll see comments only pointing out how lack of buttons is so bad! Because shit air con requires constant adjustment? I have set my car at 21 degrees. It’s now at 91k miles, I have not touched it because it does what I told it to? Same with wheel position and mirrors, why would I need to adjust them?
I’m not sure what nissan you have that the suspension is that much superior, I have only driven their leaf, didn’t blow me away but I have no other point of reference for Nissan EVs… Is taycan suspension better than model 3? Absolutely. But as a package. Tesla app and “computer” offers features actually used by human owners.
People automatically jump at conclusion I’m shilling tesla. If I did, I would’ve bought highland or juniper. But I haven’t, they’re step down in certain ways, suspension is better (and can be fitted to older models) but other things are a down grade vs pre 2024 model.
But we cannot have an honest conversion because 1. Tesla is apparently the worst 2. Tesla will kill you, car literary sets itself ablaze the moment you enter it and 3. Internet just told us to ignore it.
I test drive cars for fun. I live in a very car dealership heaven, I have driven A LOT of EVs and I’ve yet to find an replacement for my 2021 model 3. As soon as one comes? I’ll buy it. Tesla is on downwards spiral. But I won’t ignore real world experience just because Musk is a Nazi and their cars are no longer an improvement over their existing models. The sooner we collectively accept that, the sooner European brands will get their shit together and the likes of VW group stop selling shit that looks identical to my old 2016 Skoda.
Then hyundai…
Hyundai is the example of Korean car I mentioned.
European cars are only now starting to do something. But it’s just the renau plus Dacia and it’s only budget lines for now.
You can get Dacia for £11k, which is great; bit not for me.
Always has been, I don’t want to be fumbling around in settings when I’m driving,
Cool story but do you have any friends or family that get in your car and want a different temperature, adjusting AC is a pretty common task for most people. If my dog is in my car i’ll lower it when he starts panting for example.
I mean your saying shit like Tesla is objectively better because it is all computer, when that isn’t what most drivers want.
If you just said you like your Tesla and you like everything being computer, that would be one thing, but you’re insisting that’s it’s better because of the features most people hate but you like and are willing to sacrifice what most people consider more important (suspension & ease of use) so that you get that feature, then claiming all other EVs are worse as if nobody else has used a Tesla and we’re all lying about not liking it.
If you can’t have a conversation with 1 person, that might be them, but if you can’t have an honest conversation with anyone, the problem is probably you.
You’re putting words in my mouth.
I didn’t say tesla is better because it’s all computer. There’s nothing but hostility coming from your comments, “cool story”, seriously dude? Back to 2009 are we?
I can have this conversation with people in real world, you mean to tell me Lemmy is good representation of public and public perception? If that’s the case. Tesla is already dead, we cured world hunger and trans people are no longer in danger, we did it Lemmy! This place is as much of a hive mind as is reddit or twitter. The same behavior just different opinion.