the average person has no idea how to fix any of it. they have been voting back and forth for years, and nothing has changed.
average people also deeply disagree on how to fix it. and above average people are more than happy to take average people’s money to tell them how they are going to fix it, and use it to enrich themselves while doing nothing.
Invite folks to join you at a protest, or canvassing, or almost anything else that is more than zero. A big chunk of the population can be hooked on action if somebody they know asks.
I am the token white guy where I work and none of my coworkers want to talk about it. They don’t want to protest. They think they are gonna be left alone. They are just one ICE encounter away from finding out but until then they will not step outside their bubble.
Why would they? It’s an additional hazard. They know exactly where the line is for being the slow gazelle that gets killed. It’s in their bones. You’re just new to the game and haven’t internalized how fucked how quickly things will get for you if you step out of line.
i’m not welcome at protests because i’m white and male. why would I go if I am not welcome and seen as a threat rather than a friend? i’m not interested in attending events where i am not welcome.
What protests are you going to? The overwhelming majority of people I know who goto protests are white and no one has had such a complaint (yes I don’t have a diverse acquaintance group). Yes I’m white Middle Aged Christian male, ticking all the boxes except “sociopath”, and I’ve always felt welcome
I especially note the BLM protests from a few years ago, as predominantly darker skin people, but I still never felt anything but welcome
I don’t have a girlfriend because I keep meeting women who want 1950s style marriages where I am their sole provider. And I’m not interested in that. I want an equal partner.
I’m white and male and I have attended plenty of protests in my 40 years of living. If you’re viewed as a threat instead of a friend, that ain’t the reason.
it’s nonsense to you. It’s my lived experience of attending multiple protests. being told to go fuck myself for just being there. because i look like ‘the enemy’. whatever that means.
so i stopped protesting at all, because it’s not worth it to be verbally assaulted and physically threatened by your so called ‘allies’.
Yeah, that’s the nature of experience, people have different ones. I would agree with you that, for the most part, if you show up to support a protest then you’ll be welcomed and not pushed out, but someones experience in Ohio might be different from someone else’s experience in Texas, California, Florida, or NY.
I live in the US south east and moved from one city to another about 3 hours away. When I did so my workplace went from 95% white to 65% black. Protests went from politically charged and racially neutral to religious based and racially charged. Your experience in one place is no guarantee for other people’s experiences in another.
I have no idea where this guy is from, but I could totally see a place in the US where a middle class white guy showing up would raise some eyebrows.
All in all my experience matches yours, but I am also reminded of this video from several years ago. Maybe this video is fake, maybe it’s doctored, or taken out of context, but as it appears in the video it’s just an example that perceptions and opinions can be different for different people and the crowd doesn’t always support you.
Nah she’s playing with fire. Maybe she “don’t talk gud “, but this is a favorite talking point of deniers. This is exactly the scenario of dismissing BLM concerns with “all lives matter”. Technically true but offensively misleading
Is she right? Sure, anyone can be racist, no demographic has a monopoly only on that. All lives should matter
But she’s absolutely wrong to bring it up in this scenario, it’s another case of “both sides the same”, or a what aboutism. She’s effectively dismissing their concerns
They all are waiting on someone to fix it. They wont do anything until it comes to their door. By then it will be way too late for most of us.
the average person has no idea how to fix any of it. they have been voting back and forth for years, and nothing has changed.
average people also deeply disagree on how to fix it. and above average people are more than happy to take average people’s money to tell them how they are going to fix it, and use it to enrich themselves while doing nothing.
Invite folks to join you at a protest, or canvassing, or almost anything else that is more than zero. A big chunk of the population can be hooked on action if somebody they know asks.
I am the token white guy where I work and none of my coworkers want to talk about it. They don’t want to protest. They think they are gonna be left alone. They are just one ICE encounter away from finding out but until then they will not step outside their bubble.
Why would they? It’s an additional hazard. They know exactly where the line is for being the slow gazelle that gets killed. It’s in their bones. You’re just new to the game and haven’t internalized how fucked how quickly things will get for you if you step out of line.
Head in the sand until dead in dirt. That is some solution.
i’m not welcome at protests because i’m white and male. why would I go if I am not welcome and seen as a threat rather than a friend? i’m not interested in attending events where i am not welcome.
What protests are you going to? The overwhelming majority of people I know who goto protests are white and no one has had such a complaint (yes I don’t have a diverse acquaintance group). Yes I’m white Middle Aged Christian male, ticking all the boxes except “sociopath”, and I’ve always felt welcome
I especially note the BLM protests from a few years ago, as predominantly darker skin people, but I still never felt anything but welcome
What an absolute load of dishonest self-pitying BS. Lying troll. You’ve never been to a single leftist protest in your life.
so violence is cool, as long as it’s against anyone who isn’t like you, or doesn’t look like you, right?
And if anyone says maybe that’s not cool, they aren’t one of you, and violence is justified against them.
awfully convenient.
That’s how it’s always been don’t be naive.
I bet you don’t have a girlfriend cuz “all women are whores and sluts”.
I don’t have a girlfriend because I keep meeting women who want 1950s style marriages where I am their sole provider. And I’m not interested in that. I want an equal partner.
You’re an imbecile. There are 1000s of white males at all of the large protests from coast to coast, Boston to L.A.
You spout a lot of BS. You need to get lost or get your head out of your ass and learn reality.
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I’m white and male and I have attended plenty of protests in my 40 years of living. If you’re viewed as a threat instead of a friend, that ain’t the reason.
right, please tell me how my support of leftist causes is problematic and wrong. just like they did.
Considering the dumb shit you post all the time to Lemmy, I’m gonna have to go with “you aren’t actually in support of anything to the left.”
This is utter nonsense. Just show up and don’t be an asshole. Nobody is going to kick you out over skin color or gender.
it’s nonsense to you. It’s my lived experience of attending multiple protests. being told to go fuck myself for just being there. because i look like ‘the enemy’. whatever that means.
so i stopped protesting at all, because it’s not worth it to be verbally assaulted and physically threatened by your so called ‘allies’.
All I can say is that your experience is wildly different from any I’ve run into, and would be really unlikely unless you did something.
and maybe your expereince isn’t universal. maybe leftists are as accepting and tolerant and wonderful as you think they are.
oh by the way, you know one reason i harassed? because i look jewish.
weird how the anti-nazis behave like nazis…
You’re giving yourself away by frothing at the mouth about leftism and pretending that anyone on the left is advancing the cause of anti-Semitism.
Maybe be more subtle next time.
right, so if leftists treat me like shit because they are racist bigots, it’s me that’s the problem, right? i should just not look the way I look!
Yeah, that’s the nature of experience, people have different ones. I would agree with you that, for the most part, if you show up to support a protest then you’ll be welcomed and not pushed out, but someones experience in Ohio might be different from someone else’s experience in Texas, California, Florida, or NY.
I live in the US south east and moved from one city to another about 3 hours away. When I did so my workplace went from 95% white to 65% black. Protests went from politically charged and racially neutral to religious based and racially charged. Your experience in one place is no guarantee for other people’s experiences in another.
I have no idea where this guy is from, but I could totally see a place in the US where a middle class white guy showing up would raise some eyebrows.
All in all my experience matches yours, but I am also reminded of this video from several years ago. Maybe this video is fake, maybe it’s doctored, or taken out of context, but as it appears in the video it’s just an example that perceptions and opinions can be different for different people and the crowd doesn’t always support you.
Nah she’s playing with fire. Maybe she “don’t talk gud “, but this is a favorite talking point of deniers. This is exactly the scenario of dismissing BLM concerns with “all lives matter”. Technically true but offensively misleading
Is she right? Sure, anyone can be racist, no demographic has a monopoly only on that. All lives should matter
But she’s absolutely wrong to bring it up in this scenario, it’s another case of “both sides the same”, or a what aboutism. She’s effectively dismissing their concerns